• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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      The precise inclusion criteria are disputed, and there is no broadly accepted definition. Only shootings that have Wikipedia articles of their own are included in this list.

      Yeah, no. Not really. It’s useful, but it’s a much smaller subset. This is all notable mass shootings, not all mass shootings. As the article later goes on to describe, the definition is in contention. There are many different definitions that may include far fewer or far more events, just because of the nature of it it can’t be perfect.

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        For me, I would define a mass shooting as four or more people shot, not counting the perpetrator, where the shooting itself was the objective.

        Not a robbery gone bad, not a drug crime, not a gang fight, or a bar fight.

        Someone went to a location with the sole intent of shooting as many people as possible.

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          I doubt the people caught in the crossfire of a bar fight care that the angry idiots shooting toward them are drunk instead of depressed.

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            And yet when you track crime, hopefully you have the intent of using that to prevent and deter future crimes, and if you end up treating a school shooting like a bar fight or vice versa, you’re not gonna get the results you want. The victims conditions are not the reason for crime statistics, I doubt it matters much what the victims were thinking when it comes to preventing future perps.

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            I’d wager most people hear “mass shooting” and think it’s some guy at a school or a mall with an AR-15 and that’s absolutely not what’s happening.

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                Because someone out there is trying desperately to manipulate public opinion. I’m encouraging you to see what they’re doing here.

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                  I see you trying to downplay mass shootings in every fuckin thread about them I see on here and it’s gettin real tiring reading your dumbass comments.

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                    It’s hard arguing against fear. Fear is easy, logic and reasoning is not. I want folks to realize they are being lied to. Hopefully more people will catch on to the game that’s being played here.

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      Yea, that is a much better representation. These big made up numbers they share are just designed to make people fearful, and underestimate how safe we actually are.

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        From the Wikipedia article:

        Only shootings that have Wikipedia articles of their own are included in this list.

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      Only shootings that have Wikipedia articles of their own are included in this list.

      Real good definition there. /s