Lets say there are 2 factions at war. One Evil and One Good.

Evil people can just ignore international laws and commit war crimes, Good people will have to abide by laws. Evil people can use torture to obtain information, while Good people aren’t gonna use torture (because then they are no longer good by definition). Evil people can use chemical weapons and just attack indiscriminately, Good people have to make sure they don’t accidentally attack civilians.

Good people are going to be against Nuclear Weapons, but Evil people doesn’t care.

It seems like Evil is just more powerful. Do you believe that Evil is more powerful than Good? Why or why not?


I mean, we could have the “Good” faction starting to use Evil tactics, but then they aren’t “Good” anymore, so the best we can get is a shadow of Grey, because truly Good people would just lose every time.

See Example:

Country A: Good

Country B: Half Good Half Evil

Country C: Evil

Country A would oppose nuclear weapons, while Country B builds them reluctantly (remember, they are only half Good), Country C builds them without any hesitation whatsoever. The result is Country A is doomed to fail, and an arms race between Country B and Country C. Good people always lose.

  • Floufym@lemmy.world
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    US used the atomic bomb and torture. Even without that I would classify the USA in the « evil » category seeing how the social laws works (healthcare, holidays, school, guns,…).

    Still they are there and not close to disappear.

    I think evil is not self defeating. Evil fails when Good unit and fight. It is and always was a struggle. Good as to fight to win over Evil.

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      I would classify the US as good for 1 reason. The government has a mechanism to change by the will of the people. As a country, we have done horrible things, are doing horrible things, and will do more horrible things, but good people have a voice. They can change things. Every day we have the potential to be better than the day before. Besides, if you get enough people together, you can’t really quantify them as evil or good. They will be a spectrum. Hell, each person is a spectrum, depending on the day and topic.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not saying the US isn’t good, but when has anyone ever changed anything? It’s only downhill from here. I’d love to be on whatever you’re smoking.

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          I mean, civil rights, LGBT rights and such have grown dramatically from our inception. We’ve regressed in awful ways recently, but we’ve also seen a huge fight against that. In every state that has had abortion rights on the ballot, people have voted to protect or expand those rights. Progress is not a direct route. But we’re going in the right general direction, and in the long run it won’t be stopped.