So it’s about money, as it always is. Going to war is always about money… I’m so tired of the U.S. being at war. We’ve been at war all but maybe 12 years of the U.S.'s existence. Don’t believe me? It’s surprising but true.
Unless your ideal is an autarkic Festung Amerika, shipping lanes kind of have to be able to operate without the civilian sailors who go through worrying about getting fucking killed.
Globalization isn’t a requirement. In fact, it’s completely destroying our planet and its habitability. But yeah, let’s worry about the shipping lanes.
Yeah, alright, you have fun with the idea that people exchanging goods without murdering each other is what’s destroying the planet. Terribly evil, globalization. Or that the collapse of shipping lanes wouldn’t result in incredible human suffering.
It’s called CO2 emissions, I’m sure you’re aware of it. The suffering climate change is going to cause in the coming decades will dwarf anything we’ve ever seen, unless we see a sharp decrease in emissions to zero very very soon, ideally 20 years ago. But, the next best time to do it is right now.
The core issue of CO2 emissions isn’t “People now communicate, travel to, and trade with each other across the globe” but “Massive use of fossil fuels where they are not necessary due to corporate lobbying”
Cargo ships and planes combined emit ~5% of our CO2 output. The major offenders are elsewhere.
We’ll never reduce to zero, stop engaging in fantasy delusions. What can do is make realistic effort to curb the largest offenders, which ocean shipping isn’t a part of. If you think we’re going to go back to the age of sail and multi-year journeys for items to reach destinations then you’re high
Ansar Allah, the group constituting Yemen’s de facto government, has stated it’s their legal obligation under international law to do everything in their power to prevent the genocide of Palestinians. As such, they are attempting to enforce a naval blockade of the Red Sea to any ships associated with Israel until the genocide ends.
You conveniently dismiss that the ships are in international waters. Besides, sinking them is an unwarranted escalation when it comes to civilian ships.
Nope. Not as a blanket statement. There are things they can regulate but we regularly conduct “freedom of navigation” patrols through the waters of certain countries just to remind them they aren’t allowed to ban cargo ships sailing at a certain distance from the coastline.
Oh, is that what this is about? We’re attacking the Houthis in defense of Israel?
Don’t be fucking daft, or disingenuous, which is worse because it displays complete moral cowardice.
We’re attacking the Houthis because they’re indiscriminately attacking civilian ships in one of the most valuable shipping lanes in the fucking world.
So it’s about money, as it always is. Going to war is always about money… I’m so tired of the U.S. being at war. We’ve been at war all but maybe 12 years of the U.S.'s existence. Don’t believe me? It’s surprising but true.
Unless your ideal is an autarkic Festung Amerika, shipping lanes kind of have to be able to operate without the civilian sailors who go through worrying about getting fucking killed.
Globalization isn’t a requirement. In fact, it’s completely destroying our planet and its habitability. But yeah, let’s worry about the shipping lanes.
Yeah, alright, you have fun with the idea that people exchanging goods without murdering each other is what’s destroying the planet. Terribly evil, globalization. Or that the collapse of shipping lanes wouldn’t result in incredible human suffering.
It’s called CO2 emissions, I’m sure you’re aware of it. The suffering climate change is going to cause in the coming decades will dwarf anything we’ve ever seen, unless we see a sharp decrease in emissions to zero very very soon, ideally 20 years ago. But, the next best time to do it is right now.
Nothing you said is remotely relevant.
The core issue of CO2 emissions isn’t “People now communicate, travel to, and trade with each other across the globe” but “Massive use of fossil fuels where they are not necessary due to corporate lobbying”
Cargo ships and planes combined emit ~5% of our CO2 output. The major offenders are elsewhere.
I’m not going to argue about this. We need to reduce our emissions to zero, that is not zero.
We’ll never reduce to zero, stop engaging in fantasy delusions. What can do is make realistic effort to curb the largest offenders, which ocean shipping isn’t a part of. If you think we’re going to go back to the age of sail and multi-year journeys for items to reach destinations then you’re high
That is not a rational goal by any stretch of the imagination.
So, you exhale CO2 when you breath.
Draw whatever conclusions from that that you like.
What, literally zero and not net zero? That’s anprim bullshit.
You’re not going to argue because you literally can’t, your back is against the wall and the only thing you have left to cling to is “buh not zero!”
Go change the world somewhere else.
Get off the internet then.
If you are concerned about CO2, why is allowing a bunch of shitheels to close down THE SHORTEST route for shipping in the area a step forward?
They don’t have to go through that area.
Do explain how to get goods to and from that area without going through it. Or should that whole part of the world be cut off from global trade?
Obviously they should just triple their carbon emissions by going around Africa instead. This saves the environment!
They can go through it if they just stop supporting genocide seems pretty easy 🤷♂️
How are the merchant ships going through the Red Sea supporting genocide? Please explain.
Could you explain that one for me? Because it really seems like you’re just saying shit here. 🤷♂️
Sure, they said they’re only going to attack ships that are owned by, going to, or doing trade with Israel. There’s ships going through right now.
Ansar Allah, the group constituting Yemen’s de facto government, has stated it’s their legal obligation under international law to do everything in their power to prevent the genocide of Palestinians. As such, they are attempting to enforce a naval blockade of the Red Sea to any ships associated with Israel until the genocide ends.
Countries are allowed to decide what goes through their territorial waters.
You conveniently dismiss that the ships are in international waters. Besides, sinking them is an unwarranted escalation when it comes to civilian ships.
They didn’t actually sink any ships.
Yeah, not for a lack of trying.
Luckily, the Houthis are not the internationally recognized government of Yemen, so this isn’t relevant.
Nope. Not as a blanket statement. There are things they can regulate but we regularly conduct “freedom of navigation” patrols through the waters of certain countries just to remind them they aren’t allowed to ban cargo ships sailing at a certain distance from the coastline.