• Ace T'Ken@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Absolutely, which is why I’m asking for clarification. Keep in mind that like 90% of our TV, movie, and internet content is American, so it’s not like we’re clueless about the goings-on there, we just don’t have some of the finer points nailed down.

    So assuming the Equal-Time rule doesn’t apply, splitting the vote still does. Also, as a show of political fairness it still counts, not to mention that you can’t properly fight what you don’t understand.

    You didn’t answer my question if the Democratic equivalent had a fact-checker. I’d look myself, but I’m not sure what it’s called.

    And before I forget, thanks for talking. It’s not often you can debate on any social media without the other person being rude and condescending. I appreciate it.

    I moderate (and do most of the writing for) !actual_discussion@lemmy.ca if you’d ever like to stop by!

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      No, they did not have a fact checker at the event. Sorry, I didn’t see the question. As I said, they were allowed to present their lies completely unchallenged except by each other and they didn’t really call each other out on any real lies.

      And I do not see how it is fair when they did not give equal time. They simply didn’t. They didn’t even give equal time to the Republicans primarying each other because they didn’t give as much time to Trump at his rallies as they did to the Republicans on the debate stage.

      As far as not fighting what you don’t understand, there is not a politically aware person out there, and I assume CNN watchers consider themselves to be politically aware, that doesn’t understand Republicans. Not understanding them is not the problem. The problem is that they’re fascists and CNN is letting them spew fascist talking points without challenging those talking points.

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        9 months ago

        Sure. They lied. I’m not going to watch it to verify, but I’ll take your word on it. But again, that’s not what they’re there to stop. It’s akin to getting mad at Sesame Street for not showing you how to make a good stew.

        And also, they wanted usage rights. Now that they had footage that they owned, CNN the same night and next day aired basically pick-aparts using their own footage demolishing a lot of those points. Is your issue that it wasn’t done live even though it never has been?

        These debates rarely have given equal time to all candidates involved. Historically, they give the most time to the most popular candidates no matter where the debates are aired.

        Here is some current polling.

        So this is to show that the results are not set in stone. I understand that polling this early on isn’t meaningful, but I think what it does illustrate is that Biden isn’t obviously dominating in a Biden-Haley match up. If anything it looks Haley beats Biden by a larger margin than Trump does.

        Rather than trying to support Haley because she is perceived to be less of a (insert whatever pejorative you’d use here) or because Biden will do better against her in a general election (and as far as we know, he won’t), we should focus on pressuring Biden to enact policy changes that his voting base are demanding.

        And again, if using a US barometer for politics, none of this really shows that CNN is centrist or right-wing now out of nowhere (while still arguing against and frequently mocking right-wing policies).