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To be fair, only the mind of a child could fall for such obvious bullshit.
Yeah but to keep the mind childish you’d have to start doing things like removing books from oooh yeah I see it now yeah makes sense
Your comment doesn’t state which of the two you mean. Depending on which extreme of the political spectrum you adhere to, it could be either.
Conservatism is a plague of oppression and death that is long overdue for a cure. There is no such thing as a “good conservative”. In fact, nothing good in the history of mankind has ever come from conservatism.
Does that help clarify my position?
Yes, but I’m affraid that different folks have different strokes. Your opinions don’t conform with the opinions of other folks and y’all are gonna have to find a middleground somewhere. That seems impossible these days though. So, I guess everyone with an opinion of any kind is gonna have to go fuck themselves. Yourself included, of course. We’re just gonna head the way we’re going, wherever the fuck that is, disregard anyone’s opinion.
Fuck off with your Enlightened Centrist bullshit!
There are such things as objectively wrong opinions, and “children should have religion forced on them using guilt and threats as soon as possible” and “children must not be taught to be accepting towards people who are born different” are amongst the big ones.
Fuck you, you [insert insult]. [Insert your opinion ] is wrong, [insert my opinion] is right. There is no middle ground or nuance and everything is black and white. Good night!
Yeah, you’re telling me that context is irrelevant and that when faced with a choice between irrational hate and reason, I have to arrive at a middle ground for the sake ofthe middle ground itself.
Sometimes compromise isn’t the adult thing but the cowardly thing or the clueless idiot thing. Off continues to be your direction to fuck.
So, what? You want a middle ground of only brainwashing some children and making them hate people unlike them? What are you saying here?
Highly recommend checking the poster’s username before making comments like this. This one seems like an open and shut case to me.
Oh yeah? Do you have a confirmed private sector source on that?
They will, once the bank approves the money transfer.
The Bible promotes incest, from Adam and Eve on.
Seems like a good enough reason to skip that reading lesson.
I prefer the King James Version…… *unzips pants
Hosea 4:13–14
On the tops of the mountains they sacrifice, and on the hills they make offerings, under oak, poplar, and terebinth, because their shade is good. Therefore your daughters play the whore, and all your daughters-in-law commit adultery. I will not punish your daughters when they play the whore, or your daughters-in-law when they commit adultery; because they go aside with whores, and they sacrifice with temple prostitutes, a people that does not understand comes to ruin.
Oh fuck yea, don’t stop there!
Children are also old enough to marry their rapist. As long as he pays the father who, of course, is the real victim in the situation.
Well yeah, your property has been soiled. Who else would be the victim? /s
Oh and kids that lower case t you see around everyone’s neck? It’s a torture device
“And children, if you don’t believe me, underground scary man will also nail you to one and torture you down there for eternity.”
Yeah, there’s some really fucked up stuff in The Bible, but Christians treat it like it’s a bedtime story.
Yep. Like literally. I had a “bedtime Bible stories for kids” book. Nothing like a nice story about planet wide genocide to help your kid fall asleep.
"… And Captain Waffles, that was how God cleansed the planet of evildoers because they wouldn’t listen to him! Tomorrow I’ll tell you the story of Cain and Abel! If you’re a really good boy/girl I’ll even tell you the story about how God convinced Abraham to kill his son, Isaac!
Now say your prayers so you don’t burn in hell with the sinners when you die. Sweet dreams!"
My partner signed up for the military at 17.
They were mature enough to risk their life for no reason at all, but apparently, they couldn’t decide their gender or sexuality until at least age 25?! Because their brain wasn’t fully deveoped?!
GTFOH cons.
Yep, hypocrisy is great ain’t it? I’ve had people tell me that being LGBT is a religion and therefore it shouldn’t be allowed to be taught to children, and then in the same paragraph say that all kids should be raised Christian. I’ve also had people tell me I was too young to know in my mid 20s that I wanted a hysterectomy, but then turn around and defend circumcision. Here’s the thing though, while yes, I did want a hysterectomy, it was done for medical necessity. In a two sentence comment someone defended newborn circumcision, and then told me my doc should be in jail “for mutilating the genitals of a child”. Because apparently people in their 20s are children.
Children don’t have room in their tiny brains to comprehend LGBTQ+ people. All of that room is reserved for what to do when dealing with a mass shooting.
The inconsistency of principle is the point. It asserts the dogma, ideology, identity and desigated in-groups of the transnational white power movement are not privileged or superior according to an internally consistent model, but by fiat and the power of force.
The conservative appeals to tradition, to false analogies, to emotion, to ridicule, or to threat of violence. Not to internally consistent logic.
That’s really interesting, I’ve never thought of it that way. By proposing logically inconsistent policies they are indeed asserting that the exercise of arbitrary authority is more important than fair and equitable governance.
The main unifying belief of the right is that some groups deserve power and some don’t. That’s it. Inconsistency doesn’t matter in the slightest to them. If the “good” people do something then it’s good, if the “bad” people do something then it’s bad. The inconsistency is fundamental to how they view groups and power. They deserve to be inconsistent and arbitrary because they deserve power just by existing. In their minds it’s good because they are the good people, everything they do is good. They are the good people so they think they should have the most unchecked power.
‘If god really loves you he’ll rape you and leave you pregnant at 14 so you can go give birth in a barn.’
Well if they think about their identity then they might be happy and become their own person instead of conforming and we can’t have that.
Christian anything is dumb. But I personally don’t like the idea of stereotyping the Dems/Cons. We should call those idiots out one by one.
Both are equally bad
Can both of these arguments be wrong? Yes, yes they can.
There’s a lot of indoctrination of children, that’s largely what mandatory education is. But there is pretty clear difference between sexual education and philosophical education. Even if the philosophy is wrong.
I would say that there is a large difference between the standard shaping-the-narrative indoctrination (which likely is about leaving out details in history class and maybe how certain things are framed) and religious indoctrination (especially if you get into the history of nuns-with-rulers and also treatment of indigenous kids at religious boarding schools that expected conformity).
Somewhat for that fact I also wouldn’t equate philosophy and religion at all.
a large difference between the standard shaping-the-narrative indoctrination (which likely is about leaving out details in history class and maybe how certain things are framed) and religious indoctrination (especially if you get into the history of nuns-with-rulers and also treatment of indigenous kids at religious boarding schools that expected conformity).
That difference is what I value, and probably what you value, but not really different in being taught several prescribed world views(philosophies). Sexual education of children is not teaching a philosophy- it is to those who support it a preventative health and mental health measure, and to those who oppose it grooming children.
you’re gonna shit when i tell you there are conservatives out there that think religion is bullshit and a cop out reasoning for policy.
And those people reasoned their way into conservative policies? That’s somehow worse to me.
well there are OBVIOUSLY non Christian conservatives, otherwise OP wouldn’t have to differentiate in the title…
Yes. But for the life of me I can’t make logical sense of their thinking. At least with the religious Christians I can see how they get from ridiculous book to ridiculous policy.
It seems like this threat has no room for nuance or discussion. The fact that there are just two parties in the US seems to mean that there can only be two opinions in the world. You’re either with me or against me and it’s probably the latter regardless.
Mind you, I generally think “conservatives” are wrong. I don’t fully grasp what an actual “conservative” is though (I’m not american), so I’m happy to have a discussion why my opinion could be incorrect.
