• Vytle@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Bro can i just say that i fucking hate that anti-semetic is even an argument used when someone demonstrates support for Hamas? it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.

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      10 months ago

      I think there is a very good argument of antisemitism if you support Hamas. There is no argument for antisemitism if you support Palestinians.

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      10 months ago

      Colloquially yeah it makes a lot of sense to say Hamas is antisemitic, the word means hatred for Jews regardless of the etymology of ‘semite’. Take it up with marriam-webster, not the people correctly using the modern definition of the word

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        10 months ago

        Hamas Charter, excerpt.
        16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

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          10 months ago

          if you choose to believe that Hamas is not antisemitic that’s your prerogative. I only note that so long as there is a hatred of Jews the word is being used correctly.

    • misophist@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.

      Oof, either you’re just grossly misinformed and performing a cringey “ackchually”, or you’re anti-semitic yourself and perpetuating anti-semitic rhetoric.

      While yes, both are Semitic people, the term ‘anti-semitic’ was specifically coined by Nazi Germany to make their genocide seem like it had a basis in science. They specifically used it to refer to Jews. Nobody uses “anti-semitic” to mean all semites except hate groups and holocaust deniers who are trying to say “see, it doesn’t even mean Jews specifically! Jews are just playing the victim!”

      I will assume you’re simply ignorant or misinformed, but feel free to correct me if this was actually an intentional dog-whistle.

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          10 months ago

          Damn I wonder why the people being subjected to genocide support the group fighting the genociders?

          I just can’t work it out.