• dan1101@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    And what the EV market needs is a Model T, reliable and affordable. Not all these luxury models that go 0-60 in 3 seconds.

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      The Chevy Bolt is an EV that sells for less than $30,000 and gets 250 miles of range on a charge. The base model is even under $20,000 after the tax subsidy.

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          Yes, after a 7-year run they are retooling the factory for electric trucks, while committing to bringing a second generation Bolt to market sometime in 2025. Who knows if they’ll pull it off, but the sub-$30k EV market is going to grow with or without Chevy/GM.

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      There’s a tidal wave of “cheap and good enough” Chinese EVs starting to sweep the global market, fulfilling pretty much what you said. The new BYD Qin retails for $15,000.

      If the US puts up protectionist trade barriers, the US auto market will turn into an enclave of gas guzzling SUVs, totally divorced from the rest of the world.

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        the US auto market will turn into an enclave of gas guzzling SUVs, totally divorced from the rest of the world

        Already is lol. Ford I believe sells one car in the USA now, the Mustang. But they still sell plenty of cars overseas, including things like the Focus ST Estate that we never got here.

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      You are asking for a Prius Prime and/or RAV4 prime.

      Which are super reliable and selling like hotcakes for a reason.

      Push the ‘EV’ button and both Prius Prime and RAV4 prime will drive in electric only mode.

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        $40k or $51k are actually pretty expensive for a car… i mean, all new cars are insanely expensive nowadays…

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          Nearest Prius Prime SE 2024 to my house is $34,604.

          Top-hit from Carfax.com.


          I don’t think you’ll find Electric or PHEV at much lower than this in the USA. If you want a cheap daily driver, buy a Chevy Trax or something. ICE is way, way way cheaper still.

          But if you care about electrification, going north of $30k is expected.

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            there’s a difference between caring about electric and having 30k…

            a lot of people just can’t afford that

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              Well yeah. I don’t think EVs are for the mass consumer yet. They remain quite expensive and remain unreliable.

              Hybrids, like Toyota Corolla Hybrid, get 50+ mpg and are only $24k. If you can’t afford PHEV or EV, then drop down to the next tier. Hybrids exist for a reason and will have significant emissions saving / carbon emissions reduction compared to a normal car, by simply burning a fraction of the gasoline of a normal car.


              I also don’t believe that we can buy or consumer our way out of this problem. Your actual biggest way to minimize your emissions is to find a bus.

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                yep, there’s just no way to build cars for everyone without completely destroying the planet…
                we’ve already mostly destroyed it…