Apple hit with class action lawsuit over iCloud’s 5GB limit::A newly-proposed class action lawsuit alleges that Apple has “marked up its iCloud prices to the point where the service…

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      This sounds like something that hasn’t been true for 5-10 years tbh. At least not within the Pixel family. I upgrade phones without a single hiccup. My older phones are still around and used daily by my kids with no problema. I’ve had to wipe a phone and restore from the cloud backup and it was a matter of minutes to be usable, and was effectively like nothing had happened as soon as my apps and their data finished downloading.

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        I setup both for work. On this front there is hardly any difference. For the average user, it now comes down to OS and device preference. I manage my family’s apple and google accounts and neither was much harder than the other. Now, for work, preparing an iPhone is much, much more complicated than an Android device. This, once again, only matters if you don’t have automated enrollment from your business carrier into your MDM.

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          I don’t deny it might feel foreign to someone using iOS daily for decades. But that’s not the statement. The statement was that iOS does things like upgrades, backup restoration, and value retention better, which just isn’t true anymore.

          I use both, actually, because Android tablets in my experience have been pretty disappointing, so I’m pretty familiar with both ecosystems.

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      On the other hand, the phone just works,

      Same with android

      upgrades between devices are seamless,

      Same with android

      and the phone retains value after 4 years.

      Aight you got me there, except for that apple has been proven in court to slow down their older models of phones

      Plus, the backup restoration is insane. If you stole my phone, I’d be back to where I was within an hour or two

      Same with android

      — all of which is driving to Apple and waiting on a sales clerk to pull an iPhone from the back, then going to a store owned by my cell carrier to register the device on their network.

      I just go to walmart

      No device re-customization at all in the equation.

      Same with android

      There is nothing like it on Android.

      False

      5GB is a lame amount for a base tier of storage in 2024 but it’s hardly abuse.

      I agree, if people are willing to buy into apple they get what apple serves them.

      It’s pretty cool how you can just download any app and install it, also how you can customize the phone to look however you want, run whatever software you want, and all for under $200

      Oh wait

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      Apple makes my life as the family sysadmin significantly easier. If I only had to worry about myself I’d do Android with a privacy focused ROM, but I doubt I could handle my entire family doing that. No way am I putting them on stock Android.

      It would be nice if there was some competition but I’m not holding my breath.

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        Why would you only use a privacy focused ROM and not stock Android, when you use a stock iPhone? Do you think that Apple doesn’t collect just as much data on you as Android does? It’s literally in the Apple terms of service. They’ve just conned you into believing their marketing BS.

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          Did you not read my post? I use Apple because it makes managing my family fleet easier. If I were by myself I would use a privacy focused ROM.

          I’ve got users to manage, and Apple’s locked down approach makes it significantly easier. Everyone gets updates the same day, and phones are supported for years, not months. Backups are stupid easy if someone needs a replacement. iCloud is forgettable, which is ideal for the children and grandparents I manage.

          Apple is collecting data on me, but selling data isn’t their primary business. The same cannot be said for Google, which is one of the reasons I’m not putting my family on stock Google. Apple is the lesser evil.

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            Ok, so you were saying you prefer a privacy focused OS but settle for iOS because it’s simpler. Fair point.

            As far as data collection goes, Google isn’t selling it either. Apple and Google are both collecting your data to assign you to certain demographics. They then sell ad space, and the people that purchase those ads can select the demographic they want it to go to. It’s not ideal, but it’s certainly better than them selling your actual personal data to third parties.

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      I have had zero issues restoring or moving between android phones. What in the world are you talking about?

      Meanwhile my mom forgot her apple password and their customer support was so unhelpful she had to get a new account after talking to them for months. They refused to let her reset her password.

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      There is nothing like it on Android

      In the past, I’ve always made a conscious choice not to try to do it that way on Android. Getting a new phone is a good chance to reset, only install apps that I specifically still use, etc.

      But in the past, I’ve always replaced a phone because the old one was so old the battery couldn’t get through even one day, so I had plenty of time to manually back up and take care of any specific data I really needed to be sure about. Recently, I had to get a new phone prematurely after I crashed and landed directly on the old one. So I did use the Pixel’s restore functionality as I upgraded from the broken Pixel 6 Pro to the new Pixel 7a. And it was completely seamless. Kept me logged in to apps that I never thought would stay logged in, remembered wifi passwords, everything.

      Of course, all of that was only possible because I casted my screen to my TV and plugged in a mouse and keyboard. The screen was too broken to approve the transfer otherwise.

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      Actually, there’s something exactly like that on Android too. Just like on iOS, you also don’t have the choice to back that up to where you want tho. You have to use Google Drive if you’re not using a custom ROM like LineageOS.