• Godric@lemmy.world
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    People fleeing communist countries en mass sure is a mystery. Who could ever know why they built the Berlin Wall or why Cuban families risk their children on rafts to get to a capitalist country

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      You are aware that the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are coming to America from other capitalist countries right?

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        6 months ago

        This reply perfectly highlights why people who have issues with basic logic support communism.

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        still

        >many cases of people fleeing from communist countries to capitalist ones

        >far less cases of people fleeing from capitalist countries to live under communism

        most people don’t want communism, that’s why there are no democratic elections in communist countries and wrongthink is persecuted

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      Living conditions for the majority of the population in Cuba are far better than in any capitalist Latin American country. This is despite the brutal blockade on Cuba by the burger empire. Please go make a clown of yourself elsewhere.

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        im on latin america and despite being bad over here, i’m a bit skeptical on this one. the blockade is currently making sure cuba can’t even get basic medication in sufficient quantities.

        i’d say its safer to say they are much better in some aspects, the ones they can control.

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          The kind of abject poverty you see in Latin American countries simply does not exist in Cuba. Everyone has access to basic necessities, education, and healthcare. Cuba has even higher life expectancy than US.

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            when it comes to inequality i can agree its probably among the best, if not the best.

            but despite efforts to provide it, they don’t always get basic necessities because of the embargo. there is a not insignificant amount of poverty in cuba too.

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              Of course, the blockade is doing incredible amounts of harm. My point is that even despite that, Cuba manages to do a better job ensuring a minimal standard of living than capitalist countries in Latin America. What this shows is that communism performs better under extreme stress than capitalism does under best conditions.

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      People move to areas with better material conditions. Assuming that is the fault of Socialism and not of countries being in different stages of development is immaterial and ignores the trajectory of nations, as well as the geopolitical landscape.

      For example, in the GDR, education was high quality and free, but wages were lower than in West Germany. Many highly educated people in GDR attempted to leverage their free education for higher wages in the West.

      As for Cuba, people fleeing are typically the people prosecuted during the revolution, ie plantation owners. People still flee from less developed to more developed countries, which is why people flee from Capitalist states to other Capitalist states.