• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    I don’t understand the expungement of records thing. You want to protest against the fascist, capitalist system, but you still want your record clean cause once you’re out of school, you won’t be able to get a corporate job and join the capitalists with a dirty record?

    Protesters and hippies used to I use their record as a badge of honor, now people wanna weekend protest, but have their 9-5 image unaffected

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          What would you suggest people do, willingly become homeless just so they can say they “didn’t play along?” What are you doing.

          I understand wanting to break free of the system, that’s something I’m working towards myself, but you have to actually be realistic. If you want to make it to shore you still have to keep paddling to keep your head above water.

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            What am I doing? I’m playing along. Once you guys want to stop playing and actually taking heads and making the street run red, I’m there! God I’m just waiting for it.

            But going on the street with a sign on a Saturday and blocking roads isn’t doing shit, if anything it’s making more people hate you and your cause.

            You guys want to actually do something? I’ll build the Gallows, come on, anytime you’re ready.

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              If these protests aren’t doing shit then why is the police state coming down so hard on them recently?

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                You haven’t been paying attention if you think police don’t come down on other protesters. You think only pro Palestine protesters get beaten, harassed, arrested and fucked over in America?

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                  No I certainly don’t. These protests are not unique in how successful they are at challenging the status quo. The police state is also very effective at suppressing them, which is precisely why they are important. It’s a constant push and pull, we gain ground and we lose it, but if people didn’t protest at all we would only lose it.

                  Your insistence on sitting on your ass and waiting for violent revolution while whinging about protestors not doing anything is lazy and cowardly.

                  The frontier of resistance is everywhere, and even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward. The day will come when all these protests and demonstrations, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the status quo’s authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege.

                  That last paragraph was paraphrased from Andor, because it’s a simple enough concept that even a Disney show gets it.

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            The hard core peaceful hippies did become homeless, so they learned how to farm and live communally and sustainably. Some moved to Canada.

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      but you still want your record clean cause once you’re out of school, you won’t be able to get a corporate job

      That’s an assumption you’ve made. Sounds more like protesters don’t want to be charge with a crime that they do not believe that they committed. Unless you consider protesting itself a crime.

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      More than that - you’re supposed to fight it in court. Protesting doesn’t do shit, you have to use the system against itself