• The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world
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    This is the current state of US politics - it’s more about who you’re against than who you’re for, and I firmly believe this is the reason why no scandals seem to matter anymore.

    On the conservative side, they get a steady stream of content telling them how horrible Biden and the Democrats are, so anyone with a heartbeat and an ® next to their name is fine. It’s probably how Trump of all people became the party leader.

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      Strategic voting is a direct result of first past the post voting; effectively any system that uses FPTP will result in a two party system where your vote gets used against the other person not for your choice.

      I’ll continue to shill for ranked choice voting whenever I see any opportunity.

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      On the progressive side, they get a steady stream of content telling them how horrible Trump and the Republicans are, so anyone with a heartbeat and an D next to their name is fine. It’s probably how Biden of all people became the party leader.

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        Sure, if you ignore all the progressives who hate Biden and protest his handling of Palestine constantly, you can pretend that both sides are lockstep behind dear leader.

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            No, I see actual leftists criticise Biden all the time and get upvoted and praised. It’s only the marxist-liberals who get in trouble for criticising Biden, and it’s because they do it in the most counterproductive liberal way possible.

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            Nope, you’ll never catch a marxist-liberalist actually doing anything productive. They believe in order to be a good leftist you have to do nothing. Because if you do something, and it’s not perfect, you’re a bad person.

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          Time will tell if those people will still vote for Biden or if their hatred will be reflected in how they vote.

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          Its “Democratic Party”.

          We dont call the opponents “Republic Party”

          Republicans started saying this to disassociate the party from the word “democracy”

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            The only non-fascists who have a chance at winning. Progressives didn’t pick our first past the post election formula.

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              My comment and this thread has nothing to do with rightly or wrongly voting for anyone. Nor does it have anything to do with how anyone should justify their vote.

              I only reinforced the claim that anyone with a “D” next to their name is “fine enough” for progressives to vote for. A claim that you initially disagreed with, but are now proving to be true.

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                I am unsure as to why a progressive would ever vote Republican. Progressives cannot politically exist on their own in this two-party system. They have to adopt one party or the other. Since the Republican party is completely and absolutely opposed to anything a progressive would believe in, they adopted the one party that has a minor shot at enacting policies they adhere to. There is no doubt they would likely vote D all the way down the ballot in every election. It’s the only opportunity at policy progression they have. It has been this way for a while so this claim isn’t some new prediction or revelation.

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                I only reinforced the claim that anyone with a “D” next to their name is “fine enough” for progressives to vote for.

                Maybe listen to Bernie when he said that any Dem is “200x” better than any Republican candidate for president. I have never known Bernie to be wrong about anything.

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                If Biden was full of bravado around breaking the government so we wouldn’t have more elections like Trump I wouldn’t vote for him either. It’s not about the D or the R. It’s about the choice that most likely to lead to a peaceful transfer of power in the next election. There are no good options but I choose the one that’s going to allow future, hopefully better, choices.

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                One of the biggest factors that makes Republicans fascish is the way they use any power they’re given to entrench their positions, something democrats also do a little, but much less than Republicans. Voting for a party you’re less than happy with to keep the much worse party from permanent power is a much more practical and thought-out position than “blue no matter who” would have you believe. It’s disingenuous to liken that to the largely false fear-mongering the right wing media bubble does to convince their voters that the conservative Democrat Joe Biden wants to turn America communist.

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          boTh SIdes aRe The sAMe!!!

          Yep. The GOP is waging a War on Democracy and Dems have been using the wrong brand of mustard.

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        It’s probably how Biden of all people became the party leader.

        That and getting the most primary votes.

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      I’m against all these assholes taking bribes from whoever they can and above all else ignoring the needs of their constituents. Recall them all!