• JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
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        This isn’t the gotcha you think it is

        Israel is supposedly a democratic state. If your only argument is that literally a terrorist organization is just as bad then what does that say about Israel?

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          This isn’t about trusting Israel, which is not even the case for me. This is about people here trusting hamas. So better ask yourself what this says about you all.

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            I could continue arguing why you are wrong but it’s very obviously not worth it

            From the up and downvotes most people agree with me and with the truth

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              Of course a platform filled with and made by Tankies is going to agree with the Hamas / Russia narrative.

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                Wow, now we’re Russian tankies if we believe that Israel targeted and killed children in a school? Nice one buddy

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                  Yes, that’s exactly what I said. lol The mental gymnastics… Thanks for proving my point about propaganda & agenda pushing though.

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                    https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state

                    On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Benjamin NETANYAHU, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav GALLANT, the Minister of Defence of Israel, bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 8 October 2023:

                    *- Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(b)(xxv) of the Statute;

                    • Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health contrary to article 8(2)(a)(iii), or cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)©(i);
                    • Wilful killing contrary to article 8(2)(a)(i), or Murder as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)©(i);
                    • Intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population as a war crime contrary to articles 8(2)(b)(i), or 8(2)(e)(i);
                    • Extermination and/or murder contrary to articles 7(1)(b) and 7(1)(a), including in the context of deaths caused by starvation, as a crime against humanity;
                    • Persecution as a crime against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(h);
                    • Other inhumane acts as crimes against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(k).*

                    Welcome to Hell: The Israeli Prison System as a Network of Torture Camps [EN/AR/HE]

                    (And just because you’re gonna question the sources as some sort of ‘Hamas propaganda’, here’s who they are: ReliefWeb is a humanitarian information service provided by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). The service is managed by the Digital Services Section of OCHA’s Information Management Branch)

                    And about the kids?

                    UNICEF says over 13,000 children killed in Gaza in Israel offensive and that was six months ago

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                “Don’t like Israel killing children? Then you’re a Putin-lover.”

                Holy fuck your rhetoric is getting just worse every day

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                    I think you think writing the words “mental gymnastics” is a burn, but only because you don’t understand what people mean with it. Which is a fair indicator of your cognitive capability.

                    Unless you want to explain the specific “gymnastics” you think I participated in?

                    https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state

                    On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Benjamin NETANYAHU, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav GALLANT, the Minister of Defence of Israel, bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 8 October 2023:

                    *- Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(b)(xxv) of the Statute;

                    • Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health contrary to article 8(2)(a)(iii), or cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)©(i);
                    • Wilful killing contrary to article 8(2)(a)(i), or Murder as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)©(i);
                    • Intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population as a war crime contrary to articles 8(2)(b)(i), or 8(2)(e)(i);
                    • Extermination and/or murder contrary to articles 7(1)(b) and 7(1)(a), including in the context of deaths caused by starvation, as a crime against humanity;
                    • Persecution as a crime against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(h);
                    • Other inhumane acts as crimes against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(k).*

                    Welcome to Hell: The Israeli Prison System as a Network of Torture Camps [EN/AR/HE]

                    (And just because you’re gonna question the sources as some sort of ‘Hamas propaganda’, here’s who they are: ReliefWeb is a humanitarian information service provided by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). The service is managed by the Digital Services Section of OCHA’s Information Management Branch)

                    And about the kids?

                    UNICEF says over 13,000 children killed in Gaza in Israel offensive

                    So… what are these “mental gymnastics” I’m practicing? Because I try not to. I just go with reality. Which coincidentally is something you’re incapable of doing.