The shooter is a sovereign citizen.

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    That’s the sort of non-empathic “some people deserve to die” attitude that keeps the death penalty around.

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      Empathy for rapists and murderers is NOT the reason I’m against the death penalty.

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            I guess I didn’t realize “certain people deserve death” was part of the social contract.

            In that case, yes. I would say it should be abandoned.

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              By certain people DO deserve death. The problem is making the absolute determination of guilt. Courts and governments get that wrong all the time. For that reason I’m against the death penalty.

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                Why does anyone deserve to be murdered by the state or by anyone else no matter what they themselves have done? What does that achieve other than satisfying a bloodlust?

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                  Protecting people from further harm. Punishment instead of rehabilitation. It’s fine if you wouldn’t, but understand plenty of people feel differently. Surely you’re onboard with some punishment or rehabilitation. There are those who would go further.

                  As a matter of practice, I oppose the death penalty. But I acknowledge there are people that deserve to die.

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                    Protecting people from further harm.

                    That’s what prisons are for.

                    Punishment instead of rehabilitation.

                    Yes, I understand bloodlust, I just think it’s wrong.

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          I am against the death penalty. I do believe some people deserve death. But I also don’t think anyone should have that authority over someone who isn’t a threat.

          So yeah, I agree that I’m not in a position to say that someone deserves death.