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    The window being all the way down was not a safety issue, but i have zero faith that a court would determine the cops to have used excessive force. I’ll see you all at the next post where nothing changes!

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      I remember a video of a white woman closing the window into a policeman’s fingers, driving off (over his foot?) getting forced off the road again, screaming insults at the police, hitting them with the car door, before they resort to, iirc, a taser or dragging her out (might be more than one such video)

      So in my mind, that’s kind of the ‘gold standard’ for behaviour which only leads to slow incremental steps in the use of force.

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          I find it interesting how some folks feel this is entirely an issue of policing gone wrong. There can be no fault for Tyreek here, apparently.

          In Florida, the traffic code states that not following an officer’s lawful order or direction is a misdemeanor offense. It allows the police officer to remove Tyreek from his car and cuff him.

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          Try doing it the next time you are at a traffic stop and the officer asks you not too. See how it works out for you.

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            Really? The advice I’ve seen for years at a traffic stop is to only roll down your window enough to talk to the officer and hand over paperwork and to close it immediately after. Along with not voluntarily providing any extra information and only answering questions as asked.

            That’s for your safety, not theirs. You can argue the full tints, but the vehicle was surrounded by officers and many of them were aware this person was playing football that day.

            In context this is one of stupidest escalations I’ve seen since ever and I can’t believe none of these other cops stopped it from happening. Give this a little more time and the rest of the guys are gonna get lit up along with the dude who’s on administrative leave.

            Like in order to make this shit look ok, you have to full on compare the reaction to someone who was engaged in a crash or hit and run, has a warrant, or is a sovcit. They could run this dudes plates in 7 seconds and understand this dude wasnt a threat, they probably should have escorted him the rest of the way after they gave him his citation! This was a physical response to disrespect, ridiculousintimidation and you shouldn’t be ok with it.

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            Morality? Legality? Ew. Corruption and abusing your monopoly on violence to get away with illegally ordering civilians around? Based.

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      when everyone and their mother has a gun in the U.S., and you’re hiding behind heavily tinted windows, then yes, it is a safety issue. It’s not an unreasonable request to keep your window rolled down during a traffic stop.

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        Don’t take the job if you ain’t willing to take a bullet over a traffic stop. That’s the job. You don’t get to violate rights for your own safety. Your safety is secondary as a cop. If you can’t handle that fact of the position then you would be a shit cop.

        Pizza delivery drivers have a higher chance to get shot than a fucking cop and yet you don’t hear pizza drivers capping people left and right for their own safety. So I don’t wanna hear your bullshit.

        Die for that traffic stop pig. You wanted the badge without the risk.

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          You don’t get to violate rights for your own safety.

          Are we still talking about the window? How did telling him to roll his opaque window down violate his rights?