• Optional@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    As opposed to trying to make things better and avoid more suffering for everyone.

    Accelerationists have never lived through what they claim to want because if they did, and lived, they would no longer be accelerationists.

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        I’m not an accellerationist, and as a transgender furry from a red state I’d hazard a bet that I’ve got more consequences to worry about than you do.

        Quit treating treating politics like a team sport. This is not a game, this is a life or death struggle to take the reigns of the American Empire in time to do something about the climate, the genocide, the economy, and everything.

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          I’ll take you at your word, which is trying, but even if true I prefaced my statement with original. This means you’re part of the plan, and you would have to be. Though you may not identify as accelerationist your existence is spurred on and enunicated by a foreign effort to defeat America by turning it on itself.

          Edit: My bad

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            Again, I’m not an accelerationist. I’m a “Stop doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result”-ist.

            And don’t tell me you’ll take me at my word and then immediately do the opposite. It makes me suspect that you are the thing you accuse me of being.

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              You call yourself what ever you like. I’ll refer to you as, useful idiot.

              Edit: If I were a foreign actor I’m either very incompetent or am a genius for egging on you doubling down.

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                I see you have taken the mask off entirely.

                If you were genuinely invested in the election, you’d be desperately trying to find common ground in the hopes of convincing me to vote for your preferred candidate.

                Instead, you’re being both dismissive and disrespectful without even putting in the effort to ensure that the insult hits home, exactly the sort of behavior one would expect from a low-effort troll.

                Lucky for you, I’m autistic enough to enjoy feeding the trolls~.

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              The only way you can look at the world right now and say “we’re doing the same thing over and over” is if you choose to ignore unfathomable swaths of nuance in some reductionist attempt to protect your own sense of self-righteousness.

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                Electorally, I disagree. The Democrats have been triangulating towards the “center” since before I was born while the Republicans keep tacking right. When Trump loses and the post-election, post-failed-coup-part-deux infighting tears the Republican party apart, the Democrats will be the new right-wing.

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                  I don’t really disagree with this, and in fact it sounds optimistic to me, provided you’re asserting that a new party will be born from the broken duopoly that your prediction will cause. Which you may not be. I’m not trying to put words in your mouth.

                  Edit: On second thought, I do somewhat disagree, as watching the democratic party flirt with and ultimately push back against a Candidate Sanders in 2016 definitely seems like a deviation from the plot-line you’ve presented. I can envision a future in which the Dem party is captured by further left factions as young people grow up and become more and more engaged with electoralism.

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                    provided you’re asserting that a new party will be born from the broken duopoly that your prediction will cause.

                    That is indeed the case. The new left will come out of the growing union movement, the existing third-parties aren’t capable of filling that niche.

                    I do somewhat disagree, as watching the democratic party flirt with and ultimately push back against a Candidate Sanders in 2016 definitely seems like a deviation from the plot-line you’ve presented.

                    Nah, Bernie Sanders was the last off-ramp away from this future. There was a chance the DNC could have embraced a left turn, but when instead they started openly conspiring against Bernie in 2015, they locked us into the path they put us on now. They’d ratfuck him in the primary, Trump was going to win 2016, that was going to suck badly enough that any Democrat could win 2020, and the “moderate” they’d pick for the job would be so milquetoast that the party would have to drop them from the ticket to keep Trump from winning 2024.

                    Now all that has come to pass, and the Democrats are positioning themselves to be the new business-friendly, pro-genocide bad guys for the unions to organize a party against. We might be getting the “good” future after all.

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      Doing the same thing you’ve always done isn’t “trying to make things better”, it’s “trying to make things stay the same”.

      If you want to avoid suffering, you have to be against genocide.

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        My opinion is that you’re incorrect inside wrong wrapped in no.

        But I appreciate you’re hanging in there because I’m pretending you really care about stopping genocide. In the United States you could work for the BIA if you really cared about these things but I don’t know what the options are wherever you are.