More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

“We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

“Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

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    Question: Is genocide in Xinjiang a red line for you?

    I already know what your answer’s going to be, I’m just asking to highlight what your real goal here is.

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      I do not live in China and cannot do any advocacy related to Xinjiang. Though I will point out that there is not a genocide there. By now you should be able to recognize the differences. The mass killings, the videos, the diaspora, the intense censorship. We could discuss the ridiculous think tank and fake university apparatus that sold that lie with the US State Department, but to be frank, it is disgusting to distract from opposition to the genocide of Palestinians with this lazy attempt at a gotcha. Personally, I think you should apologize.

      I already know what your answer’s going to be, I’m just asking to highlight what your real goal here is.

      My real goal is to advocate against normalization of genocide in the US. I have organized actions and protests to this effect for over a year.

      Do your best to at least not believe your own bullshitting.

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        Okay, so you’re okay with genocide in Xinjiang, just not in Gaza. And your strategy for solving the genocide in Gaza is to let someone come into power who’s even more pro-genocide that the tepid pro-genocide stance of the current Democrats. Dooming millions of innocent people who can’t fight back to a catastrophe beyond even their present catastrophe.

        So you’re okay with certain genocides. And you don’t want strategies that will avoid a huge escalation of the existing genocide in Gaza.

        It honestly doesn’t sound like you’re very anti-genocide.

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          Okay, so you’re okay with genocide in Xinjiang

          This is a lie and I will not respond until it is retracted.

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            You’re right, technically you’re okay with denying the genocide in Xinjiang, the genocide itself must cause some uncomfortable dissonance.

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              I’m happy to continue this discussion in another thread or via DM, as I would prefer to center Palestinians and their plight and not your interest in finding fictitious hypocrisy. Let me know if you make a thread.

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                It’s not fictitious. You are a hypocrite and a disingenuous “idealist.” Realists see through you.

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                  You have already acknowledged that my supposed hypocrisy is fictitious, you just tried to then deflect to another criticism, i.e. denial. And I will engage with that criticism if you make another thread or go into DMs. But this thread is not about me or you, it is about the genocide of Palestinians.

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                    Pay attention. You’re addressing a different person. Your engagement is not needed. This is not up for debate. This is a statement of who you are.

                    When your input is desired again, your string will be pulled once more.

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                Lol. I love the “you got me, so let’s take this discussion into privacy” line. What a joke.

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                  They are free to make another thread and link it here. I am just not interested in distracting from the genocide on Palestinians here.

                  You can go start that thread if you’d like, feel free to ping me.

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                    I am just not interested in distracting from the genocide on Palestinians here.

                    Translation: i got publicly slapped down hard and didn’t like it, so I’m gonna act smug and superior while i take my ball and go home.

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                  More like I know that conversation can easily go 10 comments deep so I suggested taking it elsewhere. I prefer to center the genocide of Palestine in this thread.

                  So far at least 3 people have responded but none have made a thread.

                  If you want to have that discussion feel free to make a thread and ping me. But like the others, I doubt you really mean what you say. It is just a thought terminating cliche that lets you forgive yourself for complicity in genocide.