• FatCrab@lemmy.one
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    If you don’t believe that strategic voting is critical to achieving what are inherently long term goals, then we have little in common.

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      we have little in common

      Yes, I did say that.

      Democrats nominating a war monger was a sign of high minded strategy?

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        1. her position wrt Israel and Palestine wasn’t clear when she was nominated (though I don’t think it was all that hard to anticipate, but here we are); (2) the upcoming vote isn’t for her nomination to the democratic ticket, is it?

        No one is saying they don’t wish the practical reality in which we live was better, but we are looking at two realistic choices right now. One choice will not only greatly worsen the situation and almost undoubtedly lead to more suffering and death in the Levant, it is also quite literally the highly preferred choice by Netanyahu. The other has in the past, before soliciting as many US votes as possible, at least displayed a willingness to criticize the Israeli government and modulate US policies regarding it. So I dunno what to tell you. At the end of the day, I’m pro-Palestinians not being murdered, and could give a fuck about signaling on social media, so I make practical choices to facilitate my as-many-Palestinians-as-possible-not-being-murdered preference. Maybe you don’t have that in common with me.

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          How was her position unclear?

          Google:

          August 7, 2024 (Harris was certified by the Democratic National Committee)

          A previous report from August 15, 2024, stated that the death toll in Gaza had reached over 40,000.

          I have nothing in common who sees these innocent people dead as a sign Harris somehow shares a value of “pro-Palestinians not being murdered”.

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            Ah, so you’re actively avoiding engaging reasonably with what I and others are saying. Good luck to you. Sorry to hear you’re comfortable with more Palestinians being murdered so you can signal on social media.