• chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    I have a friend who I haven’t been able to hang out with for several years because his wife is insane and posessive, and he’s decided to just ride it out until the kids are all 18 so he can divorce her without having to pay her child support.

    He’ll still support his children, but he’ll do it directly instead of through her.

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      It’s me, your buddy - well maybe not your exact buddy but a dude living in this same scenario.

      Please hang out with that last kid turns 18 and we are free. It’s horribly lonely and there is no one to help. Getting a divorce just means she gets everything including all the time in the world to manipulate the kids.

  • My ex-wife was arrested for slapping me and breaking my glasses.

    Like many other victims of abuse, I stayed married for several more years. Been away from that nutjob since 2009.

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    This reminds me of the Heard v Depp case, on the two X chromosomes subreddit there was this long ass comment from someone who experienced abuse and said she wasn’t the “perfect victim” because she fought back and hurt her abuser back and how because of this it was harder to get away from her abuser.

    And when I asked how does she know that in Heard v Depp case it isn’t Depp who is the imperfect victim? Because he had multiple partners testifying to his character of being a kind man etc, while Heard had the opposite (AFAIK).

    All I got was silence and downvotes.

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        The mens rights sub originally was a good place for dudes who were getting taken to the cleaners in divorce court, losing full custody of the kids just because the mom wanted em, and even an instance iirc of the wife taking the dog only to have em put down later.

        Then it slowly mutated into a watered down version of incels

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          I mean that’s bound to happen. If the main thing that draws you to a space is that you’re all being abused by women in one way or another, then it’s probably going to end up being a place to hate on women and therefore attract women haters like incels.

          Men’s lib should be a space where we fight the injustices imposed on men by the dominant hierarchy. Like the fact that we’re assumed to be worse at caring for our kids than their mothers and that this assumption disadvantages us in court. Or the fact we’re assumed to be abusers and that being a victim somehow makes us be seen as lesser men and automatically deserving of the abuse we get (like in this comic). Or the fact that we’re assumed to BE/BE PART OF the dominant hierarchy and therefore can’t be victims of it, even though we can lose our “manlyness” through something as simple or human as crying when we’re sad.

          Only with this mindset can we channel our victimisation into positive action rather than towards hatred of women.

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        How? By refusing to accept that female on male abuse is a thing. Go find a mainstream leftist place and bring it up. See what happens

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              I’m skeptical that there exists any leftist mainstream place that isn’t actually a right-wing place disguised as leftist.

              I’m also skeptical that all of those loud but irrational voices are genuine. Especially given Russia’s MO for online trolling where they push both sides of any issue to extremes to sow division. Not to say that I believe everyone on the left is rational and reasonable. But why would the tone be so different between “mainstream” and “non-mainstream” left places if the position you’re talking about is as ubiquitous to the left as you claim it is?

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      Agreed. I’ve been seeing more and more “woe is men” stuff lately. Not too surprising since most people here are Reddit refugees. The platform where every single “woman bad” post makes the frontpage.

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        “woe is men” isn’t a comparison to women.

        Women are victimized by the patriarchy in many ways. Men are victimized by the patriarchy in many ways.

        Everyone suffers from the patriarchy. We need to dismantle the patriarchy both by fighting our own fights AND by supporting eachother.

        We don’t win by dismissing eachother’s pains as invalid or less important.

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          I agree, as a woman who very much cares about inclusive feminism. By silencing men who talk about their issues/pains, we push them further away. By pretending like men don’t have worries/fears/needs/wants, we’re doing them a disservice.

          The Patriarchy hurts everyone. Men need to know that if theyre abused by a woman, it doesnt make them “less of a man”, nor is it “their fault”. No one deserves abuse. They, as victims deserve to be acknowledged and handled with care, and have their abuse investigated/taken seriously just as much as a woman does.

          There’s room enough for us all to be equal.

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        Maybe men are pushed to the extremes because of people like you shitting all over them when there is a post about men’s issues.

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    I was once seeing a girl for a couple weeks that FUCKING ROOFIED MY DRINK so she could look through my phone while I was lying there watching her unable to move. It was absolutely fucked.

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      Good thing you managed to stay conscious, holy shit!
      Didn’t even know that was possible

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        Depends on the type of drug, not all date rapes do the same thing. I think this one was GHB but I don’t actually know.

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        I’m married now, and this was over a decade ago. As soon as I was able to function again I kicked her out of my house and never spoke to her again.

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          From « a couple weeks ago », to « I’m married now » oh boy, that escalated quickly but then I saw the decades word! Good for you you were able to ditch this abuser.

          Edit: ha, I misread the whole thing, my bad

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    Really applies to most things. I’m not a dude, trans woman, but I’ve gotten sexually harassed a lot both pre and post transition and the response I got pre and post transition is night and day. Pretransition people treated me like I was crazy for feeling unsafe and like I was supposed to enjoy it.
    Honestly, men should be allowed to feel unsafe around women, or really allowed to feel unsafe in general, and be taken seriously for it.

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      One downfall of what I only hesitantly refer to as modern feminism (although really I’m talking about terfs and the terf-adjacent) is that it has painted men as dangerous by default. I’m also a trans woman so I’ve seen both sides of the coin, too… I do feel less safe now, this is true. Many things were easier when I was living as a man. But I was never dangerous or an abuser.

      Nonetheless, a former partner used accusations of abuse against me and turned so many people on me. The only ones that stuck by me were former romantic partners, who knew the accusations couldn’t have been true. For everyone else, it was so easy to accept that a man - even a clearly gentle one - would be an abuser.

      In reality I’ve been a victim of abuse - physical, emotional, sexual… All long before I transitioned.

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    An abusive partner accusing the other of cheating is very often a projection of the fact they themselves had been cheating. Since they know they would cheat, and were/are, they either assume the other person is the same way, or simply don’t want to draw attention to their affair. It’s an awful thing.

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    Thanks for posting this! Being male and being abused is a very isolating experience on many levels. I wish good things upon you, friend.

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      🫂

      I am hoping for better things and healthier relationships in your future

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        Unfortunately the image of them around the internet and educational book aren’t. Those are what left of them after getting drag into the atmosphere they’re not used to in high speed. It’s like showing a decayed corpse of human and say “this is what human actually looks like”.

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          And the fish in the comic wasn’t at the bottom of the ocean.

          What would the man have looked like at the bottom of the ocean? Maybe more like that decayed corpse?

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          So what you’re saying is that the natural habitat of Roger Ailes was the bottom of the sea? I agree, but for different reasons 😉

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    I guess if she’s suspecting other women, it’s up to the bros to be there for him. Remember to support your bros and get them to seek help! (There’s nothing unmanly about heart to hearts about abuse).