• RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      5 days ago

      They’re so wrong to do so in such a vindictive way.

      … but that doesn’t mean they’re not doing it. People are petty, including men.

      • Brodysseus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        5 days ago

        I’m honestly not sure it’s even vindictive. Maybe in some cases, it’s a big complicated issue.

        We get such different news in the age of algorithms, they may not even see it as vindictive. I think it’s easy to pull back from a group that paints your identity as a villain, and I think that’s likely some of it.

    • blarth@thelemmy.club
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      5 days ago

      They are choosing it because Theo Von / Shane Gillis / Tony Hinchcilff / Dana White / Joe Rogan / UFC / Russian propaganda / random MAGA streamers.

      • Brodysseus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 days ago

        I think it’s too complex to attribute to one thing, I think you’re right that the alt right social media pipeline is real and an issue.

        I’m just saying I understand not identifying with a group who trash an identity a person belongs to. They just disengage. Nobody likes being put into a box that paints them as a villain.

        Just my opinion of course, the left (as a social group) can examine the current discourse and try to adjust, maybe like framing it as a class struggle or a liberty struggle, or continue being divisive and risk being overridden.

      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 days ago

        Trump learned how to win friends and influence people from Carnegie. People just want to feel heard, doesn’t matter what you say back to them. It’s essentially slight-of-hand, but for feelings and emotions.

        All those other guys know a cashcow when they see one.