• Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
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    Its a 6 sided bear, the peak of the polygonal phylogeny.

    Monomouse

    Duodugong

    Traye-aye

    Quadferret

    Pentacoyote

    Hexbear

    Heptaherpeton - this is the furthest we’ve discovered in the polygonal phylogeny but research indicates the likely existence of an octorca as well

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      Octoria are scientifically impossible, the grazing territory requirements alone for a sustainable breeding colony would be immense. Any reports of them in the wild are either misidentified pairs of quadferrets copulating, or hoaxes perpetuating the psuedoscience.

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        quadferrets copulating

        That’s where you’re messing up. Those are pentacoyotes, not quadferrets. The contact side between two polygonimals mating is actually obscured, so the actual number of sides in a copulation configuration is the sum of the sides of all involved polygonimals - 2. Therefore the octorca could not be two mating quadferrets, but could be two pentacoyotes, or a chain of duodugongs.

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    Think they’re way overhated, yes some of the users can troll a bit too much but they’re generally fine and I appreciate that they help stomp out fascist, racist, and anti-trans rhetoric on Lemmy.

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        It’s not. The Chinese government is an abusive autocracy that doesn’t respect the “rights” of its people and answers to nothing and no one other than Xi and profits and power. Those three things are king.

        Marxists and fascists are two sides of the same coin. They may have somewhat different end goals, but they’re alike in having zero regard for the democratic will of the people. May every Hexbear troll be accursed.

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      I honestly have no idea what they stand for. Their posts are so confusing and non coherent. I’m sure a lot of it is because sarcasm doesn’t work with text unless you have context. But without context, all it comes across as is a bunch of trolls who just love to hate

      I couldn’t care less about them

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        They’re a left wing group that uses a lot of sarcasm and trolling. It can be a bit off putting to most but a lot of it comes from the fact that most people don’t bother reading or looking beyond US propaganda so it can be frustrating talking to people like that. Personally I try to come at things a bit more openly but I can understand the frustration of dealing with people that don’t put in much effort to understand the nuances of geopolitical topics.

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      I have seen so many thread saying how bad that instance is but every time I ask for links proving how bad they are I have never see anything worth the hate.

      Can you provide some examples?

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        I have never see anything worth the hate.

        You just have a very high tolerance for jackassery. You’ve seen plenty of evidence of hexbear hostility, i.e. the “dunk tank” that would justify not wanting to interact with hexbear users and have actively chosen to disregard it.

        This is because you’re kind of a jackass. Disregarding people engaging in good faith with “just trust me bro” is exactly the kind of thing people really hate hexbear users for. Not because of illegal activity or moral failing, but because they’re assholes. While you may think this isn’t worth de-federation, unfortunately moderators aren’t some kind of legal authority, and if federating with hexbear means instance admins or community moderators need to put in triple the work to prune all the arguments and “”“shitposting”“” hexbear users love, nobody is legally or morally required to put up with it.

        It’s legitimately that simple. Hexbear users are jerks and nobody wants to hang out with them, and that’s enough to ban them from any given community or instance.

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          Best point I’ve read made here.

          I’m also probably kind if a jackass, because hex bear doesn’t bother me. Would I appreciate a civil conversation to better understand their POV? Totally. Will that happen? No. So I just don’t interact. The fierce protection of LGBTQ communities is something I appreciate however.

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            The fierce protection of LGBTQ communities is something I appreciate however.

            It’s not really genuine though. They lightly elevate trump above all other presidents despite his history of attacking LGBTQ rights: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/09/trumps-record-lgbtq-rights-vile-moment-took-office-kept-list/

            It’s just a political angle to get support from people who feel isolated away from other political movements.

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              Here FaeDrifter is again saying this shit.

              A HUGE PORTION OF HEXBEAR IS TRANS. OVER HALF THE MODS ARE TRANS. THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR THREE YEARS PRIOR TO FEDERATION. FAE, PEOPLE HAVE POINTED THIS OUT TO YOU BEFORE. PROBABLY MULTIPLE TIMES NOW.

              See @HornyOnMain@lemmy.ml in this very thread:

              https://lemmy.ml/comment/3504748

              We’ve never “pretended to support lgbt”, why would we? What would be the point of a load of alt right channers roleplaying as queer communists for years on an incredibly niche social media in the hope that eventually redditors would come to the site? And even supposing we did, and we were all just alt right types, if we’d spent years doing reading groups of queer theory together and kicking out transphobes and creating the most queer friendly space on lemmy just as an incredibly long extended bit then would the supposed communists we’re impersonating even take issue with that?

              Like just use some critical thinking, at this point almost half of the sites users are trans and most of the rest are queer, most new users cite our radical opposition to queerphobia as their reason for joining, what evidence is there that we lie about being queer friendly? Like just check out !traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net or !anti_cishet_aktion@hexbear.net or !transenby_liberation@hexbear.net and tell me in good faith that all these people have been lying for years about being queer

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                Identiy politics is so silly. It’s possible for a black person to support systemic racism, it’s possible for a Jewish person to support Nazi’s, it’s possible for LGBTQ people to support anti-LGBTQ politicians. Case in point - Jessica Watkins.

                “I am x-identity” is lazy, superficial, irrelevant.

                I don’t think anyone is lying about their identity. I do fully expect that the trans men and women of Hexbear would throw their LGBTQ brothers and sisters in front of a firing squad if it meant a chance at a bloody revolution over the bourgeois.

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                  But THEY DON’T SUPPORT THOSE THINGS! YOU’RE MAKING SHIT UP. THIS IS EASY TO SEE IF YOU GO LOOK AT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SAY ABOUT FASCISTS AND TRANSPHOBES. YOU HAVE BEEN AT THIS FOR AT LEAST A FUCKING WEEK NOW.

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        Lol, that’s because the mods of said threads already had to delete all the bullshit they posted once they “accidentally found this on all” and then descent on it like locusts (but they’re totally not brigading!!!1!)

        Here’s one of their mods:

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    Ever wanted to be talked down to by a 14 year old alt-right sociopath who pretends to support lgbt so they can stealthily insult liberals and blame western whites for how China is?

    Edit; downvote more, at the end of the day you’re still a hexbear 🤢

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      holy fuck I laughed out loud at this outside by myself at ten to 1am … I didnt know what hexbear was, soooo, I reported a post for saying that anyone who ever supports a democratic candidate in america needs to be hit by a truck, and that violence needs to befall them, so the mod I reported it to posted my username and announced I had reported it in a comment to that post. people then piled on saying how I was a hypocrite and deserved violence brought against me, because violence has been done by cops agains homeless and trans people. also, that all I care about is getting brunch

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      Like mainland 9gag with a veil of solidarity.

      For the majority who don’t know, 9gag is a Hong Kong based meme recycling organization run by people who are equally intolerant of lactose and melanin.

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          Literally claiming trans people aren’t actually trans and are just faking it as part of some conspiracy is misgendering.

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                Okay, and I’m still confused on where “faking LGBT support” implies anti-trans? You’re literally seeing things that aren’t there.

                🤡

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                  Weve all spent three years faking being gay and trans for your amusement, yeah. We even went as far as to code in mandatory pronouns next to display names to own the libs. /s

                  Imagine being so conspiracy brained that you say such incredibly insulting nonsense.

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          Do you want to see their genitals or what? This happened way before the exodus and federation.

          I’m a trans hexbear user, are you going to accuse me of faking?

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                Trump is so broke he can’t pay his lawyers and is selling coffee cups with his mugshot on them but, okay? Hopefully he’s in prison one day for all he’s done.

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                  Trump is so broke he can’t pay his lawyers and is selling coffee cups with his mugshot on them but, okay?

                  This is standard rich asshole stuff. The point is being a billionaire is antithetical to being a communist.

                  Hopefully he’s in prison one day for all he’s done.

                  Hopefully he’ll be executed.

  • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    A lemmy instance full of trolls and people celebrating chinese and russian fascism in the name of socialism

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        Jewish people arent the only people who ever were victim to fascism… To say china commits a holocaust is holocause trivialization. To say it is a fascist country is not.

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          To say it is a fascist country is making fascism look better then it is. Fascism doesn’t have 95 percent of the population approving of the government. Fascism doesn’t exempt minorities from the one child policy. Fascism doesn’t end extreme poverty in a country of 1.4 billion people. Fascism doesn’t lead to trans youth Healthcare clinics sprouting up in major cities.

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    A social network that was formed as a fork of lemmy, before lemmy had really entered the fediverse (tho they were planning to). Both Lemmy and Hexbear had communists among their founders, but the Hexbear devs found it more… Central to their objectives. When Lemmy federated, Hexbear didn’t. It planned to initially, but ended up being pretty satisfied of being a small, yet centralized social network, basically a communist Reddit. But the idea of joining the Fediverse appeared tempting once again with the boom that happened on Mastodon when the muskrat ate the bird, and to a greater extent when Reddit changed their API policy and lost a lot of the user’s trust, causing many redditors to move to Lemmy.

    Hexbear devs then worked to essentially make it a Lemmy instance, but there were always disagreements about who to federate with. They first federated with Lemmygrad and Lemmy .ml. Lemmy .world quickly blocked them. They temporarily federated with sh .itjust .works, but this wasn’t well received on either side, so this was soon undone.

    Ideology wise, pretty much everyone on Hexbear is some kind of communist. However, altho the “tankie”, pro-russia type is often seen, it’s not that homogeneous (there are even anarchist channels over there), arguably less than lemmygrad.

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      Everything you said was accurate except the pro Russia = tankie stuff. I just want to be able to say that the kulaks deserved and such without being tied to capitalist trash like Putin…

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        Yeah, I didn’t mean to say that all tankies are pro current Russia, but just that there is a specific type of tankies that is, and these are often the annoying ones.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          I’ve actually yet to see anybody you’d call a tankie being pro Putin or pro current Russian government. What people are pro is Russia acting as a counter to NATO and facilitating multipolarity.

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            I think people are thrown off by anti NATO stance. I almost don’t blame people for confusing NATO opposition for Russia support, especially during on ongoing Russian invasion, which does seem to justify NATO’s existence. Nevermind NATO’s history of imperialist action, people are very tied up in the Ukraine war and are unwilling to cede any ground to anything that may appear even a little soft on Russia.

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                This is really a non-sequitur but I have zero idea how people choose to upvote it downvote anymore. You and I were in agreement and somehow I got upvoted and you got downvoted? I don’t get it

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                My issue with hexbearians was that in every single thread I saw them in they would do nothing but whatabout regardless of the context. I understand they may have good points about certain things and to their credit some had very well written and informative comments but most of the time they weren’t directly relevant to the topic. It could be a loud minority but it doesn’t change the fact it’s annoying to see huge threads of whatabout arguments all the time by them.

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                  You know whataboutism isn’t an actual logical fallacy and was originally used in defense of British colonialism “well the IRA also does bad things” right?

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                  In my view, having consistent moral standards is a prerequisite for having an honest discussion on any topic. If anything, the actual whataboutism is pointing fingers at other countries while refusing to acknowledge what your own country is doing. People should focus on fixing problems at home and holding their own governments accountable first and foremost because that’s where they have most agency.

                  This is what people who you accuse of whataboutism point out. Focusing on countries you don’t like and talking about how bad they are when your own country does the same things simply serves to deflect attention and to create the impression that your own society is somehow better and more enlightened. This is how the west often justifies the atrocities it commits.