Had a friend who pretty much did that, she came back to no job and went from making $65k+ with 4 weeks off a year to making minimum wage with 2 weeks off a year… She lost the means to travel in the future in order to travel one extra week that year…
Then it’s a crap job. Or there were other times she did it too many times. If it’s just once and you have it planned and paid, the job should work with you somehow. If it’s every other week that’s a different story.
Oh yeah, it was a pattern with her but even then, just leaving without warning the boss so they don’t have the chance to find someone to take over? That’s a perfectly fine reason to fire someone even with strong labor laws like we have around here. Hell, even the union didn’t want to touch that case with a 10’ pole.
Or maybe some people need to recognize that for regular vacations (i.e. not unpredictable occurrences like a sudden death) their employer needs to make sure there’s a minimum number of employees working so it’s something that needs to be arranged with them.
Does your employer have a backup for all employees to be able to replace them in case they go on vacation without warning them? They have multiple backups for all positions to cover for both people who asked to go on vacation and in case someone decides to just leave without justification?
Had she been sick it would have been one thing, but just leaving on vacation and warning your employer hours before you’re scheduled to work is opening the door to be fired and it’s 100% deserved.
Why do you assume we couldn’t take them exactly? With our weird schedules I would end up getting 10 weeks off every year working for the same employer.
She just decided to leave, called after the fact, was told that the quota was full for that week and she said “Well, it’s too late, I’m halfway across the world!”
Lol thattts a very different story now. “I decided not to show up, I’m on vacation for a week as of today without notice” is a shit move and not just to the employer. “I’m on an airplane cause grandma died”, or “I’m in the hospital” – nothing wrong. “I decided to go to Tijuana see you bitches in a week” – I honestly don’t blame them for firing her.
The OP is exactly that, the boss saying “I can’t accept your time off” and the person already being on the plane. Then I shared my anecdote of someone doing basically the same thing.
Had a friend who pretty much did that, she came back to no job and went from making $65k+ with 4 weeks off a year to making minimum wage with 2 weeks off a year… She lost the means to travel in the future in order to travel one extra week that year…
Then it’s a crap job. Or there were other times she did it too many times. If it’s just once and you have it planned and paid, the job should work with you somehow. If it’s every other week that’s a different story.
Oh yeah, it was a pattern with her but even then, just leaving without warning the boss so they don’t have the chance to find someone to take over? That’s a perfectly fine reason to fire someone even with strong labor laws like we have around here. Hell, even the union didn’t want to touch that case with a 10’ pole.
If your PTO can be denied you never had the means to travel in the first place.
Or maybe some people need to recognize that for regular vacations (i.e. not unpredictable occurrences like a sudden death) their employer needs to make sure there’s a minimum number of employees working so it’s something that needs to be arranged with them.
It is up to the employer to make sure to hire enough employees to do the job.
Not on the employees.
There is always a chance that an employee can’t make it for whatever reason. If your business fails because of that, it shouldn’t exist anyway.
Does your employer have a backup for all employees to be able to replace them in case they go on vacation without warning them? They have multiple backups for all positions to cover for both people who asked to go on vacation and in case someone decides to just leave without justification?
Had she been sick it would have been one thing, but just leaving on vacation and warning your employer hours before you’re scheduled to work is opening the door to be fired and it’s 100% deserved.
And then there are also a lot of cases where it went the opposite way…
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Guess that first job was still worse to work at.
What is the point of having 4 weeks off if you can’t take them up on it? Might as well not exist.
So 2 weeks > 0 weeks
Why do you assume we couldn’t take them exactly? With our weird schedules I would end up getting 10 weeks off every year working for the same employer.
She just decided to leave, called after the fact, was told that the quota was full for that week and she said “Well, it’s too late, I’m halfway across the world!”
Lol thattts a very different story now. “I decided not to show up, I’m on vacation for a week as of today without notice” is a shit move and not just to the employer. “I’m on an airplane cause grandma died”, or “I’m in the hospital” – nothing wrong. “I decided to go to Tijuana see you bitches in a week” – I honestly don’t blame them for firing her.
This is not the implication of the op
The OP is exactly that, the boss saying “I can’t accept your time off” and the person already being on the plane. Then I shared my anecdote of someone doing basically the same thing.