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I was reading some “I am a master shoplifter” threads on Reddit, and honestly I don’t know why people don’t steal more stuff.
I thought they banned the shoplifting subs. No?
How much did the printer and materials cost? Or the time to educate on cad and printing?
Just saying, it was likely far more money and time/effort than merely 12 cents.
There’s a third, where the first person puts on thingiverse and we do it for fun without owning the actual unit
China mastered copying things well. A five pack of replacement knobs that actually match is $34 on Amazon. A crappy homemade knob for a $4000+ range is crazy.
I was gonna bitch about it too but the cheaper Bosch ranges use the same knobs. It’s an off the shelf part that Bosch is charging a ridiculous premium for.
It goes farther than that! The 34$ 5 pack is only that price because its already here in america to be shipped in a day or two. It came from china, where you can order the same thing for 1-5% of the price if you are willing to wait a month to receive it.
China has also mastered modern slave labor. That someone makes thier own replacement instead of ordering some small uncomplicated part from across the globe isn’t crazy, it’s self-reliant and smart.
But that’s, like, just my opinion man.
I’m sure the prison firefighters out in California are real mad about China mastering modern slave labor
Oh I would go for the OEM part ten times out of ten, especially for such a nice appliance. Instead this person opted to make some plastic waste that will eventually be in the Ocean after we are all long dead.
Completely agree that Amazon garbage is terrible for humanity
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I definitely agree that less plastic = better in general. But if you’re going to 3d print stuff, at least this is functional.
And I’m not here to argue. God it is nice to have a civil discussions on social media.
Sorry if I came off as argumentative. That certainly wasn’t my intent.
I was just trying to make the point that this person spent a lot of time and effort to do something subpar with plastic.
I have a hunch that those knobs are just a thin sheet of metal wrapped around a piece of plastic, which would explain why one of the knobs broke off in the first place.
I could be wrong, just a hunch.
The knobs are “brushed stainless” plated plastic with plastic parts inside. It’s possible Bosch is using higher quality materials, but this is the standard Bosch range knob that goes on all of their ranges, so I suspect it’s made down to a price. They’re injection molded parts that cost about a quarter a piece including parts and labor.
The important parts of the knob are all inside the range. But still can cost as little as about 10 bucks for an OEM part and 15 minutes of repair work if one of those should break.
And Bosch makes and generally stands by their good products. Yeah they’re a company, but they’re not the worst!
Also, where did original knob go, I need to know.
Some things are better left unknown.
So one is creative and solution seeking and now proud about himself and an inspiration to others and the other one – not, but just a thief.
The thief inspired me.
Simplest answer wins, and you could argue its not even stealing when its a display model.
If the knob on your stove breaks while it’s still new enough to be sold on the floor of a Home Depot? Yeah, the theft wasn’t by the guy who took the knob.
Where does it say it’s new enough to be on the floor of Home Depot?
If the knob of your new-bought stovebreaks to talk to the seller or the manufacturer and request a new knob if it was a manufacturing problem. You don’t go around and steal knobs from innocents.
Hone depot hardly qualifies as “innocent”…
The workers that shit is going to roll down on are
How will it “roll down” on the workers?
Why do you think floor models sell for cheap?
Do you think the higher ups just shrug they’re shoulders when the displays are missing parts?
All your doing is making some Home Depot worker’s life worse.
Lol.
This reminds me of a story my mom told me over the holidays about buying a fancy sweater at Sears one fall. By mid winter the zipper had broken and she went back to Sears but they didn’t have a replacement, and she didn’t want a refund. They eventually agreed to have her take it to the tailor in the mall for them to replace it, and they would cover the receipt. She did and they did.
Blew my mind. If I honestly thought I could contact Maytag or Bosch and actually get someone on the phone to send me a replacement knob, I might bother. But I’ve moved past “try to contact the company with a reasonable concern” a long time ago. Which is what they hope for and why they make it time consuming and pointless. I’ll take the path of least resistance.
If home Depot goes out of business because of all the stolen knobs, I’ll cry myself into Rona every day (I mean that, I hate Rona and I use HD daily)
Home Depot is not innocent.
-Anti-union
-Massive donation and lobbying efforts to Republicans and Democrats (but they definitely go harder with Republicans, if you look at the numbers, and they’ve donated specifically to white supremacist candidates)
-Underpaid employees
-Violated the National Labor Relations Act NLRA
Fuck 'em
Just a thief?? That’s creative, solution seeking, and ecologically conscious problem solving right there
He’s an active initiator of the broken windows theory and thus not only a thief but acting anti-social by destroying virtues and morale and thus social safety, coherency and teamspirit. He’s a selfish sociopath.
He’s a selfish sociopath
Sure, being a thief is bad, but one case of theft doesn’t instantly make him a CEO.
Broken Window Theory is a load of bollocks: https://cssh.northeastern.edu/sccj/2019/05/21/researchers-debunk-broken-windows-theory-after-35-years/
Ecologically conscious would have been getting it from some shop that fixes and recycles appliances.
Those stopped existing when it became cheaper to just throw the whole thing out and buy a new one
Yes, he’s just a thief. The ends don’t justify the means. I can’t believe that needs to even be said.
Shoplifting is a noble crime.
Isn’t that just selling?
That’s a humongous oven, must be a 10+ person household.
And yet it runs with gas, as if we’re still cavemen cooking meat over open fires.
Its the cheapest ¯\_(ツ) _/¯
I ended up with 8 hobs, 2 ovens, a grill, and a drawer on mine. It was there when I moved in, and I kept it. Damn thing is built like a tank.
I’ve never had to use more than 2 of the hobs at once.
I use one of the ovens for storing rarely used pans and things.
That sounds like the 48" Miele. If so, hang on to it. That son of a bitch currently retails for $17,599.
No, that is not a typo.
Not as fancy as that unfortunately.
It’s 100cm across and the branding has long since worn away. I think it used to say Panache on it at one point, but I can’t find anything about that brand online. Following a trail of spares that look like the stuff on it, it was possibly made by Newhome.
I’d take a picture but I’ve not cleaned it in ages so it looks like something out of a crack den.
90cm.
We have one for our 4 adult, 2 kid household. Its amazing how often it’s not big enough for all sorts of things.
I think 2 X 60cm ovens make more sense in hindsight and they also dont take as long to heat up
Or its the house people designated as the holiday house, maybe! Only actually used fully a few times a year.
That’s my house. We have dual ovens and use them simultaneously several times a year, mostly holidays.
My oven is so old I came across an identical one in an e-waste pile behind a store. I stole the timer knob and mechanism so I don’t need to keep using the broken one (manual only) anymore.
You didn’t steal it, you 💫recycled💫.
*Reused, which is preferred to recycling even if the materials are 100% recyclable.
That’s what I told to the store employee I encountered coming to work via the back door. He wasn’t too happy but ultimately let me do it.
Imaging being mad someone is taking your trash.
Imagine getting mad someone is taking your employer’s trash.
YOU WOULDN’T STEAL A BOSCH OVEN KNOB
Now you can
DON’T TELL ME WHAT I WOULDN’T STEAL
When an artificer and a rouge are faced with the same problem.
Edit: my english sucks
What does makeup have to do with this?
Rogue is not spelled rouge.
I think you replied to the wrong person. They know.
DM: Roll a D20 for a stealth check.
Rouge: I bat my eyelashes.
DM: Huh, I misread your character sheet. I’ll allow it.I feel like an artificer would be skilled in the application of rouge. As well as foundation and eyeliner.
*eyeliner
I’d eyeball the measurements in Blender and laugh at my crooked knob every time I use the stove.
You’re still putting too much work into this. Just heat up the metal shaft where the knob was with a torch and press any old hunk of thermo plastic onto it. Now you have janky done even more quick and cheap.
I laugh at my crooked knob all the time.
I also laugh at it.
That’s at least better than his wife. She laughs and points.
What about the old vice grips that are now a permanent part of the stove trick?
Nothing is more permanent than a temporary fix.
Man, all the sinks I’ve seen over the years with vice grip knobs haha.
I simply pulled the knob off in the store & shoved the rest of the stove up my butt, later at home I printed the missing knob. It’s a simple life-hack, basically everyone is doing it.
Is this why your meatloaf always smells funky?
Me too I enjoy putting my meatloaf in Evil_Shruberry oven
It brings all the funky people to the yard tho
I hate that as a society it is somehow ok to steal for your convenience. Its the same thing with lots of other things as well. Don’t you just love it when you buy a product only to get home and find half of it was stolen?
You mean like US healthcare insurance?
A while back I would use those local secondhand auctions that mostly dealt in amazon returns. (As opposed to directly buying from amazon.)
I’m surprised how everything would be intact for a lot of items, but most commonly if I got bamboozled, it was something like, everything is fine except for missing a set of screws, or a single crucial knob or something.
People literally will just order the same thing again, pull the part they missed, and instantly return it. Which is especially scummy when it’s no longer a secret these returns just get destroyed or incinerated for no reason.
It’s just disgusting consumer-brain behavior. (Amazon, of course, being sheer evil, enjoys the market advantage of a “no questions” return policy.)
If it was a very specialty piece beyond a simple hardware store run, a lot of times I’ve been lucky enough to politely contact the manufacturer of a thing, sometimes I tell them I got it as a gift so they don’t ask for a proof of purchase. And they’ll just send me the missing bit. Free. Super simple. The most I had to do was take a picture of the model tag.
The fact that this was too much for people to bother with grosses me out.
I really appreciate that ikea instead has no questions asked small hardware replacement. Had a bed in my storage unit for years waiting for summers to kill the old landlord’s “pets”. Unfortunately in that time some important bolts rusted. Made me not need to throw the whole thing out
Not to say this behavior is okay, but there are some companies that also just exploit the alternative to high heaven, like the post shows. You can pay $20 for a 12 cent replacement part, or order one and return it. Some people will pay for the part, but significantly less will when it costs and arm and a leg for something so cheap.
If Amazon was a legit normal business this wouldn’t have worked and everything would have been processed. As you said, sheer evil
mademakes this.
Wes Watson over here.
Thats going to be a squidgy mess after a long cooking session. Hope he doesn’t get plastic burns.
I think something might be wrong with your oven uh… my knobs don’t get anywhere near the glass point of PLA when I’m cooking something.
I’ve always got a spool of high temperature PLA for that, good for up to 140°C.
I don’t have a setup for ABS/ASA and been looking for affordable HT alternatives. Not sure how I haven’t heard about this.
2.5x the price of PLA where i am, but not like I have better options on hand.2.5x the price of PLA where i am
Yep, I usually print drafts in normal PLA and only the final part in the high temp stuff, but 2.5x is often still better than buying something if there’s even a solution available. So, fine for me in edge cases.
Channel locks, adjustable wrench, or plyers are also acceptable. Plus then ya know damned well where they are.
This is why I always buy cheap vice grips whenever I see them in a box of tools at an estate sale or something.
“Oops, I broke a handle on (thing).”
Clamps vice grips on the bit left over
“Fixed it.”
Right now both of the seats in my truck just have a vice grips for the reclining lever.
I had my shower knobs as vice grips for a long while
