• frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io
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    Women should quit NCAA in protest. But they won’t, because reasons. Seem to be OK with massive spending differentials between men and women sports but still participate anyway.

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      They won’t because they have to pay for college and they are taking advantage of sports scholarships. They’re kind of fucked here and it really shouldn’t be put on them to do something like that.

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        It’s a matter of numbers. The bosses always pretend they’ll just fire people for defiance, but if whole teams strike they don’t really have a way to pull that off without grievously harming their business. (And while the NCAA is itself a nonprofit, it definitely has business interests.)

        It’s not fair, but solidarity and social resistance is going to involve good people taking risks when they could have just gone along instead. That’s the whole meaning of the ‘First they came for’ poem.

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          I’m afraid that is not how scholarships work. They are contracts. If you do not fulfill your contract, the scholarship is taken away from you.

          These women either keep playing with the team or lose their scholarship and possibly lose their only way of paying for college. You expecting them to give up college or go deeper into student loan debts so that they can protest an injustice is an injustice to them. All you are suggesting is that even more people get hurt by this than are already hurt by it.

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            What do you think employment is? Strikes aren’t about rules and contracts, they’re about power. You don’t get fired because at a certain critical mass, the bosses can’t run their business without you.

            And students have been risking their scholarships, enrollment, and even visas for Palestine all year. Resistance and moral stands aren’t without personal risk.

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              I think employment is something they won’t get if they don’t finish college.

              What is your personal risk in this? Because it’s all well and good to expect other people to make sacrifices you will never have to make.

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                If my profession was something the NCAA cared about, I would absolutely be rallying my coworkers to take action.

                There’s nothing easy about striking or protesting, and there will be some people who simply can’t, but you seem to just not believe in resistance at all. There is no no-risk path, but “First They Came” isn’t a message about just hiding out because standing up for someone else is risky.

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                  Again, it’s all well and good for you to tell other people to take risks you don’t have to take.

                  What risks are you taking right now?

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                    This is a nonsense attempt at a gotcha. I have nothing to withhold from the NCAA and thus no leverage to apply. What answer would you even expect here?

                    I’m going to keep bringing this up, because you’ve no doubt heard this poem many times in your lifetime, but what do you think “They Came For” is about? Because your answer to all of this just seems to be “it’s too hard, no one should do anything unless they’re personally impacted”. And it’s good you’re getting out, but you don’t need to justify it by pretending no one can do anything and no one should take any risks for their fellow man.

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      Both women and men should quit NCAA in protest. Trans men exist just as much as trans women.

      I suppose Donny will be personally inspecting each and evey single athlete before a game?