It’s blatant extortion now.

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    In case people don’t realize. Canada shares an Arctic border with Russia and Russia is trying to take Canadian land and regularly crosses into our waters to steal resources. It is of benefit to Putin for Canada to be weak and distracted by Trump, since Trump works for Putin, it’s very clear why he’s doing this

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    Please remember that all this is noise to hide the great billionaire sacking of america. Smoke screen.

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      Have these random programs actually helped Americans?

      To my naive view, would America not he better served with a far more progressive tax system, in lieu of spending these large sums to foreign countries and various agencies that squander what could be given to the poor?

      In what world is giving the poor more money directly not he an effective means of raising their standard of living, which should be the main point of a progressive government?

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      Great take. I agree. We know this from Project 2025. Keep an eye on it but don’t let it distract. Trump and cronies are using a strategy coined flood the zone to prevent coordinated opposition against them in politics and media.

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    I hope that people in the Pentagon remember that following illegal orders is a crime, too, and you cannot be forced to do so. Something established in Nürnberg when they took care of the Nazis.

    An order to attack Canada, Mexico, Greenland, or Panama would basically be such an illegal order.

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      This is not the first time the US has made up bullshit in order to attack a country: WMDs in Iraq, communism in Vietnam, Russia said there were nazis in Ukraine to justify that war. The military only needs a lie and then it’s not illegal anymore. The lies are already circulating. “canada is communist” “canada hurts the US”

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      I’m not sure it’s technically illegal, and I’m very doubtful that the current judiciary would find it so. But it is unconscionable. And insane.

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        It’s not technical illegal at all. Nothing he does is. The Supreme Court made him king.

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      Lol the Pentagon isn’t afraid to fake evidence to support an invasion. Remember the aluminium tubes? Remember yellow cake uranium? I remember.

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      When have illegal wars ever stopped the Americans?

      I’m sorry but let’s not forget that Iraq was a thing.

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      He has the memory of a cod and the backbone of a slug, this is all bluster and he’ll cave the moment anyone he knows tells him otherwise.

      Strongman my ass

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      … And you think the trump government cares about some German town (as trump would explain that)?

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    I know trying to make sense of the stupidity that is Trump’s “plan” for America is a lost cause. But why do they speak like turning Canada into a singular state makes any god damn sense??

    Also, is war inevitable? I honestly don’t know. Shit is not looking good. If war breaks out, I would find a way to flee and volunteer to fight on the opposing side. No way am I supporting my country on the wrong side of history.

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      This is what I hope – that there are enough actual patriots, people who believe in the Rule of Law and the principles our Republic was built on, and resist. That military commands will rebel, that people will be gathering OSInt for Canada, and saboteurs and vandals and lone wolves start making things miserable for the administration and anyone who supports them.

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      today seems like a good day to remember David Fagen, an American soldier who defected to fight for the Philippines against the American invasion and is remembered as a hero for it in the modern era

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      I think war against Panama is far more likely. The idea of annexing Canada is wildly unpopular among both Democrats and Republicans. The best you could get away with is an EU type economic union. We already have some in the military who have said they won’t invade our allies.

      A full on war against Canada is unlikely. Maybe a single battle?

      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/americans-worry-trump-too-closely-aligned-with-russia-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-03-13/

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      The US could attack Canada and they could take our cities in Southern Ontario easily, however, that would instantly deputize everyone else and there would be tens of millions of insurgents fighting asymmetrical warfare forever more. We would also destroy all the assets the US sought to take from us cause Canadians are vindictive AF. If we can’t have what’s rightfully ours neither can US invaders.

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      Yeah, I definitely don’t have loyalty to fascism. Being autistic and leftist, they will want me dead. Here’s hoping that I can help in some useful way.

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      A land war at the border would give him justification to deploy military domestically for “defense”.

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      I honestly think the “better” thing to do is stay inside and try to sabotage the aggressors. This would obviously require a great deal of cunning and bravery.

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        If you want to really sabotage the war effort, use the war to push for state secession from the union, particularly if you’re in a blue state. Most of the blue states are economic engines that keep the rest of the machine ticking. If they leave, or try to, that’ll be a huge kick in the nuts to any war effort.

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          Honest endgame here.

          And if the coastal states are doing it you might even get a left-right alliance in Texas to support secession.

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      His death won’t solve our problems. We’ll have Trump adjacent Russian puppet who will run and win. Trump has admitted to fixing the election, so the r’s know they can repeat their strategy again effectively.

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      Hopefully after the next election. We wouldn’t wanna have Adolph Vance do something stupid. Like a few days to a week should be fine. Meanwhile I’d be totally fine with an increasing level of dementia? Like maybe he declares war on Mexico on Sunday, but then travels there for vacation Tuesday, then Wednesday he declares war on Mexico again from Mexico. It could get interesting. So long as he shuts down the government for most of the year, were good.

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        Personally hoping he just drops dead, but that a week or two beforehand, he and Loveseat have some public falling out about…something, honestly the specifics don’t matter. Hell, it could even be something that never actually happened and is just the dementia taking hold. Point is, if he rages against Vance on Truth or wherever and then keels over, every qanon dumbfuck in creation is going to collectively cream their pants over that shiny new conspiracy, and while we will technically be stuck with President Loveseat, that would nerf the fuck out of him.

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    STFU about this fucking petulant imperialist nonsense. 40 million insurgents is what this orange fuckface will get. US is not getting one fucking square CENTIMETRE of Canadian land. I used metric on purpose too. fuck the USA.

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      It’ll be more than that. There’ll be millions of Americans who won’t stand for it either. To think of it though, that might be the point. Something so heinous, yet legal (barely), that it legitimately compromises our security and forces martial law and a state of emergency he can exploit.

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        If he enforced martial law that’s within the US borders. I’ve never heard of a country being under martial law then invading another country but someone please enlighten me. He clearly wants to incite violence, I’m reading Stephen Marche’s The Next Civil War and Marche argues quite effectively that while he doesn’t know what the inciting event will be, the violence willl come from the right.

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            Of course I’ve heard about it, I’m not a historian so I don’t know all the details about how Germany went about it’s expansionist war other then the basic stuff . Did Hitler declare martial law and then invade Poland and Austria Hungary etc??

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              Hitler put the military on the border of chekoslovakia, made noises about protecting the German minority in the Sudetenland. British Prime minister negotiated the transfer of the Sudetendland from Chekoslovakia to Germany. All the fortifications the Checks military had built were in the Sudetenland. A few months later the Germans rolled in and took the rest of the country nearly unopposed. Germany signed a deal with Austria taking political control there, then they made a deal splitting Poland with the USSR. The Poles saw what happened to the Checks and resolved to fight it out reminding Britain and France that they have a defence pact but they didn’t know about the deal the Germans had with the Soviets, so Poland got invaded on both sides.

              Britain and France declared war but they needed time to get their militaries rolling. Germany brought the army over to the French border, then the Germans invaded the Netherlands and Belgium. Went around the French defences and took Paris. Britain got their people out of France at Dunkirk. Germany bombed Britain but didn’t have the navy to invade so they turned around again and attacked the USSR, and that’s where it started going to shit for them.

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                You missed 3 events. The fucking POS Hitler threw the entire German army into Poland leaving a token force to protect the western border and the French could have easily marched into Berlin. In addition, the French and British completely failed to help Poland. If you read the Polish campaign after action reports, from the German field commanders, they revealed severe deficiencies and recommended halting all offensive operations until 1943 to make the improvements. All of it was ignored, the best Wehrmacht generals were sent to desk duty and only the yes officers were given command. Sounds familiar? The perfect recipe for losing.

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                JFC I guess that’s what Turnip is gearing up to do. He already declared a bullshit national emergency at the border with Canada. Which was complete verifiable bullshit.

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    According to the US Supreme Court, a US president cannot be prosecuted for crimes (if they’re related to their official duties, but whatever goes, I guess). This means that Canada is faced with the fact that they’re being attacked by a foreign power with a ruler not beholden to the rule of law. If they give in, they’re going to be conquered by a king who is not bound by a national constitution, legislative body, nor courts. This is an existential threat to their freedom as individuals with rights.

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      If they give in

      lol, no. The US are about to rediscover why Canadians were so feared in the world wars. Canada literally exists because we didn’t want to be part of the US. If you want Washington burned down a second time, keep at it.

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      Well, that and also the fact that Canadians currently see the US as a severely indebted dumpster fire where the system is specifically designed to exploit and oppress its citizens for the profit of the few. A police state where cops can assault, rob, unlawfully imprison and murder anyone without repercussion, where your insurance company will deny you life saving treatments to make more money despite charging you twice what Canadians pay for their own health insurance through their slightly higher taxes, where the cost of education is absurdly prohibitive and social mobility is nonexistent, where it is legal to pay someone a salary that is not even enough to keep them lodged and fed while working over 50 hours a week on several jobs, where corporations can sell you food containing ingredients that are known to be harmful to your health, where religious zealots with belief systems that belong to the dark ages wield significant political power, where citizens are locked up for simple violations while rich people get away with murder, where entertainment TV shows can spew out pure disinformation while calling themselves “FOX News” where Corporations are being given human rights that take priority over real humans and their political donations are considered “free speech”, where any moron can buy a gun without even having a single clue on how to use it safely and where the violent crime rate is through the roof, all that while chanting about being the greatest country on Earth.

      And that was before we even take Trump into consideration. But hey, he said we could keep our anthem because he likes it and that we’d pay lower taxes. So I guess that makes it worth it now?

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      if canada is threatened they can just cut out all traffic to ALASKA, starve the state.