• shalafi@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Cute little comments score internet points, but you’re not helping me change the world. In fact, you’re only pushing liberal gun owners like me away. Was that your intention?

      You are not helping the debate. You are only hurting. Engage honestly, and be willing to listen, as I am, or STFU.

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        Yeah. Valuing firearms over human life isn’t a leftist, or even liberal, thing. It is a monstrous. And I am not going to comrpomise on human life. Because, again, monstrous.

        Also,if you can stop masturbating furiously over dead kids for a few seconds, you might see that I was actaully arguing for a “common sense” gun law of just banning assault rifles/AR-15s on account of the .223/5.56 round having significantly higher penetration over most handgun rounds AND being spectacularly monstrous when moving through human tissue. But apparently, unless people are protecting your gun’s rights, they are “not listening”

        But hey, thanks for being yet another gun nut who wants to make it clear that nothing is more important than THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS (and shoot kindergartners).

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          stop masturbating furiously over dead kids for a few seconds

          Again, you’re hurting us all with shit like this. Now we are two more people who cannot have a sane conversation, cannot solve this, work for a better world.

          nothing is more important than THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS (and shoot kindergartners)

          The 2A exists, cannot be realistically overturned, and the courts uphold it to be a personal right to gun ownership. That statements are facts, not opinions. Those facts must be met head on, without the emotional vitriol you bring to the table.

          Great thing to note! My 70’s elementary science teacher changed my life for the better, in 100 different ways. One thing she taught, every damned year, was “opinion vs. fact”. And the idea that emotions had no bearing on factual evidence. I was bored stupid. “Fine. Who doesn’t get this by now?”

          You don’t get it.

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      Nah, it’s the loud opinion in these threads that all gun owners hate children or something because they don’t support “common sense gun control.” Nuanced discussion isn’t allowed, only name calling group hate against gun owners is.

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        Piles of dead kids because of a complete lack of gun control

        Gun nuts: Excuse me, you are using incorrect terminology and guns are actually amazing and we need more good guys with a gun

        At this point? Nobody is saying the gun nuts hate children. We are increasingly worried that you are getting off on the sight of dead kids.

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        I feel ya. We can’t talk in forums like this because of posts like OP’s. Nothing will get better, only more polarized, and ironically, more death.

        I think the issue is that liberals have an ignorant view of guns and gun owners. I used to, and ignorance is OK! But FFS, be willing to learn and engage. I call you on your BS, you call me on mine, we learn.

        When we bring facts to the table, facts that can be argued in good faith, we’re immediately called baby killers. That’s not helpful. In fact, it’s harmful.

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      I know its hard when someone shows up with actual data to counter false opinion but Ad Hominem is never a good response.