So it’s about money, as it always is. Going to war is always about money… I’m so tired of the U.S. being at war. We’ve been at war all but maybe 12 years of the U.S.'s existence. Don’t believe me? It’s surprising but true.
Unless your ideal is an autarkic Festung Amerika, shipping lanes kind of have to be able to operate without the civilian sailors who go through worrying about getting fucking killed.
Globalization isn’t a requirement. In fact, it’s completely destroying our planet and its habitability. But yeah, let’s worry about the shipping lanes.
Yeah, alright, you have fun with the idea that people exchanging goods without murdering each other is what’s destroying the planet. Terribly evil, globalization. Or that the collapse of shipping lanes wouldn’t result in incredible human suffering.
It’s called CO2 emissions, I’m sure you’re aware of it. The suffering climate change is going to cause in the coming decades will dwarf anything we’ve ever seen, unless we see a sharp decrease in emissions to zero very very soon, ideally 20 years ago. But, the next best time to do it is right now.
The core issue of CO2 emissions isn’t “People now communicate, travel to, and trade with each other across the globe” but “Massive use of fossil fuels where they are not necessary due to corporate lobbying”
Cargo ships and planes combined emit ~5% of our CO2 output. The major offenders are elsewhere.
Ansar Allah, the group constituting Yemen’s de facto government, has stated it’s their legal obligation under international law to do everything in their power to prevent the genocide of Palestinians. As such, they are attempting to enforce a naval blockade of the Red Sea to any ships associated with Israel until the genocide ends.
You conveniently dismiss that the ships are in international waters. Besides, sinking them is an unwarranted escalation when it comes to civilian ships.
Nope. Not as a blanket statement. There are things they can regulate but we regularly conduct “freedom of navigation” patrols through the waters of certain countries just to remind them they aren’t allowed to ban cargo ships sailing at a certain distance from the coastline.
I guess you don’t know this, but there are, in fact, different limitations in what the President can do.
When it comes to military action, Congress gave the President essentially blanket authority to do anything that can be even remotely connected to “fighting terrorism”, so this is not in any way a “Fuck Congress” moment. If Congress wants to withdraw that authority and actually do its job again, it can do that at literally any time.
Did you miss when Biden was (rightly) criticizing trump for going around Congress for strikes like this and Biden said no president should ever do that…
And now he’s doing it?
His entire campaign is “I’m not trump”, but he acts more like him everyday. And I don’t expect him to turn it around after he wins the last election of his 60 year political career.
That’s one hell of a false equivalent. Trump killed a senior government official of a regional powerhouse without provocation. Biden is responding to provocations against US and Allied shipping.
Biden when Americans need help:
Biden when far right ethnostate wants to do another genocide in the Middel East:
Motherfucker is 80 years old and has no idea what he’s doing. We deserve better than our only two options
Oh, is that what this is about? We’re attacking the Houthis in defense of Israel?
Don’t be fucking daft, or disingenuous, which is worse because it displays complete moral cowardice.
We’re attacking the Houthis because they’re indiscriminately attacking civilian ships in one of the most valuable shipping lanes in the fucking world.
So it’s about money, as it always is. Going to war is always about money… I’m so tired of the U.S. being at war. We’ve been at war all but maybe 12 years of the U.S.'s existence. Don’t believe me? It’s surprising but true.
Unless your ideal is an autarkic Festung Amerika, shipping lanes kind of have to be able to operate without the civilian sailors who go through worrying about getting fucking killed.
Globalization isn’t a requirement. In fact, it’s completely destroying our planet and its habitability. But yeah, let’s worry about the shipping lanes.
Yeah, alright, you have fun with the idea that people exchanging goods without murdering each other is what’s destroying the planet. Terribly evil, globalization. Or that the collapse of shipping lanes wouldn’t result in incredible human suffering.
It’s called CO2 emissions, I’m sure you’re aware of it. The suffering climate change is going to cause in the coming decades will dwarf anything we’ve ever seen, unless we see a sharp decrease in emissions to zero very very soon, ideally 20 years ago. But, the next best time to do it is right now.
Nothing you said is remotely relevant.
The core issue of CO2 emissions isn’t “People now communicate, travel to, and trade with each other across the globe” but “Massive use of fossil fuels where they are not necessary due to corporate lobbying”
Cargo ships and planes combined emit ~5% of our CO2 output. The major offenders are elsewhere.
I’m not going to argue about this. We need to reduce our emissions to zero, that is not zero.
If you are concerned about CO2, why is allowing a bunch of shitheels to close down THE SHORTEST route for shipping in the area a step forward?
They don’t have to go through that area.
Do explain how to get goods to and from that area without going through it. Or should that whole part of the world be cut off from global trade?
Obviously they should just triple their carbon emissions by going around Africa instead. This saves the environment!
They can go through it if they just stop supporting genocide seems pretty easy 🤷♂️
How are the merchant ships going through the Red Sea supporting genocide? Please explain.
Could you explain that one for me? Because it really seems like you’re just saying shit here. 🤷♂️
Sure, they said they’re only going to attack ships that are owned by, going to, or doing trade with Israel. There’s ships going through right now.
Ansar Allah, the group constituting Yemen’s de facto government, has stated it’s their legal obligation under international law to do everything in their power to prevent the genocide of Palestinians. As such, they are attempting to enforce a naval blockade of the Red Sea to any ships associated with Israel until the genocide ends.
Countries are allowed to decide what goes through their territorial waters.
You conveniently dismiss that the ships are in international waters. Besides, sinking them is an unwarranted escalation when it comes to civilian ships.
They didn’t actually sink any ships.
Yeah, not for a lack of trying.
Luckily, the Houthis are not the internationally recognized government of Yemen, so this isn’t relevant.
Nope. Not as a blanket statement. There are things they can regulate but we regularly conduct “freedom of navigation” patrols through the waters of certain countries just to remind them they aren’t allowed to ban cargo ships sailing at a certain distance from the coastline.
I guess you don’t know this, but there are, in fact, different limitations in what the President can do.
When it comes to military action, Congress gave the President essentially blanket authority to do anything that can be even remotely connected to “fighting terrorism”, so this is not in any way a “Fuck Congress” moment. If Congress wants to withdraw that authority and actually do its job again, it can do that at literally any time.
Are you familiar with the term “Commander in Chief”?
Did you miss when Biden was (rightly) criticizing trump for going around Congress for strikes like this and Biden said no president should ever do that…
And now he’s doing it?
His entire campaign is “I’m not trump”, but he acts more like him everyday. And I don’t expect him to turn it around after he wins the last election of his 60 year political career.
That’s one hell of a false equivalent. Trump killed a senior government official of a regional powerhouse without provocation. Biden is responding to provocations against US and Allied shipping.
But you go on with your both sides bullshit.
I agree with you but that is also the legal framework we gave him to work with.