Humanitarian agencies say women and menstruating people are also facing alarming rates of severe infections due to Israel’s blockade of supplies and water.

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    Why? That’s what nazi camps are in my language.

    And english wikipedia names the the same.

    Seems like I don’t get you.

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        Technically concentration camps are not limited to the Nazi regime and are do not nessisarily require actively killing the people inside to fit the definition. The internment of Japanese civilians by the US and Canadian governments in WWII fit the definition of a concentration camp. The North Koreans have political prison camps which also fit the description. The notes of periods stopping in the face of extreme stress an malnutrition have been noted at all of these camps by the doctors who have kept records.

        You also made quite the logic leap from someone mentioning menstruation in Concentration camps to assuming they meant a literal camp in Gaza. Gaza isn’t a concentration camp… Though the Israeli government has actively throttled supplies to the citizens of the region (including international relief) who cannot immigrate because the neighbouring countries fear Israeli retaliation so you do have a bunch of people who cannot freely move in increasingly unsanitary conditions without access to medical supplies, clean water or fuel to produce clean water and increasing food insecurity in the region has meant that the conditions are primed for a large number of civilians to die… So there are fairly decent parallels in regards to living conditions but the disqualifying difference being largely based around formalized imprisonment.

        Not a concentration camp by strict definition and not an “industrial” killing zone like Auschwitz but Auschwitz was very much not the norm for a concentration camp even the ones under Nazi rule so using that as your rubric of “what is a concentration camp” is inherently flawed. Concentration camps are unethical even when they don’t exist to slowly and steadily liquidate their populations.

        The commonality stated here is the function of the body due to disease and malnutrition. Demanding proof of one very specific presentation of genocide out of a wide range of possible presentations of active genocide seems to be very mich missing the point.

          1. He was to name them nazi camps. No need to talk about that
          2. The name concentration Camp was used specifically that way to imply that, let’s not kid ourselfes. There was no Logic Leap. Especially not since i sepcifically asked him what he meant by concentration camp and he literally confirmed it 2 comments further up.

          I don’t think you’ve written this Comment in good Faith and as such will stop bothering here. I wish you a very nice Day

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        Ah, now I get you.

        I don’t equate these two situations. I wanted to point at the link between mental distress and physical health that was observed in these camps, IIRC I’ve read about it in David Frankle’s memoir\self-help book first - and he is a survivor of one, that’s why I refered to them. And these women are put into critical insecurity and distress too.

        By now more than 23k were reported dead, or ≈1% of pre-October estimated population. Not an industrial scale of killing per se, but still a catastrophe. With how many buildings were leveled to the ground (33%) and how many people therefore were displaced, it sure is. Intensity of IDF bombing is pretty much systemic and overly agressive. Would you argue with that?

        I think you are overreacting.

        I’ve heard Gaza was called the-camp-in-the-open-air before October, and that wasn’t true. It was occupation and segregation, and mass murder wasn’t in the menu. Now it’s hard to say, hearing all this warmongering and dehumanization. Is it assymetric warfare with a side of suspected warcrimes? A continuous act of terror? A genocide? I don’t know. But it seems like Israel hardly cares about palestinians anymore, doesn’t want them here and this shelling, military maneuvres are about making it’s unlivable here so they’d leave. I don’t think civilian\Hamas ratio was even 10:1. Not really a C-T operation.