• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The IPC, (the people responsible for tracking and declaring famines), have released a report saying this is going to get very bad very quickly if aid isn’t allowed in.

    This is entirely avoidable and creating a famine is not in anyone’s textbook of legitimate military strategies.

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      5 months ago

      These animal farmers are making famines worse by driving up demand for cropland and input allocation towards feed crops. The more money is shoved into the animal farming industry, the more famine there will be in the world.

      edit: if you feed food to food, you’re wasting food. This isn’t some obscure fact. The free market on inputs and even on land allocates the resources to who pays more - and subsidies allow the animal industry to pay more, to buy more land, to buy more inputs.

      The future is plant-based. Anyone who doesn’t want people to die of hunger agrees with this.

      https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1713820115

      Global farmers facing fertiliser sticker shock may cut use, raising food security risks https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/global-farmers-facing-fertiliser-sticker-shock-may-cut-use-raising-food-security-2021-12-09/

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        Feel free to educate me if I am wrong, but I vaguely remember reading somewhere that famine happens due to lack of logistics rather than lack of limited food in the world. I still think future is plant based for other reasons(emissions, cost, etc) but is the solution to famines producing more food or providing more logistics? Or maybe a combination of both?

        • VeganPizza69 Ⓥ@lemmy.world
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          Currently, with the industrial fossil-fuel food regime, food insecurity (up to famine) happens:

          • due to markets pricing out poor people (doesn’t matter if there’s food around if you can’t buy it)
          • war - destroying food growing capacity, killing or scaring away the agriculture workers, stealing harvests, or just preventing harvest seasons
          • blockades, usually part of war, which is what you see in Gaza
          • local production failure due to various reasons like: weather catastrophes, drought, epidemics, floods, but also economic failures such as the fail to buy inputs by the time they’re needed, such as not being able to buy fertilizers because they got much more expensive to import (because production decreased and/or demand increased such as subsidized demand from rich countries)

          As the climate gets more chaotic, drought, weather disasters, diseases and pests are going to become major factors in this food security state. The other aspect are inputs, especially fertilizers, which depend on fossil fuels which are both running low (getting expensive) AND must be replaced with something that isn’t destroying the planet’s climate. This is called a predicament.

          In any sane society, resources that are scarce would be rationed according to need. And that means using cropland and inputs for food for humans. This is both for dealing with food insecurity and for mitigating climate heating.

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        Animal farmers are much more likely to prevent this specific famine - when you’re displaced from your home, there is no chance you’ll harvest and bring your crops. There is a chance you can bring some animals with you.

        I understand your point, but there’s a time and place for that, and that is absolutely not here.

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          This is the time, any later and it’s too late.

          Stop pretending you are the voice of reason when really you’re just selfish and lazy.

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      Well in the medieval textbooks it was a valid strategy…

      But this is horrific and along the lines of torture. Genocide and death by forced starvation are disgusting, despicable things that should not be happening in this modern era.

      Netanyahu… or however you spell his name… will go down in history next to Hitler, sadly, and the Biden administration supporting this genocide is on the wrong side of history.

      Even with all this said, I’m probably still voting for Biden in 2024. 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

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        For once, I’m glad I live in California, so I don’t have to actually vote for Biden this time (because everyone else will).

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          I’m glad I live in Utah where I will definitely (and defiantly) vote for Biden because nobody else in this baboons butt-red state has the decency or morals to do so.

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            Aha, another Utahn lemmy connesiur in the wild. I’ve tried to convince many to make the transition, dunno if a single one actually has.

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              You wouldn’t have to convince me much to make a transition as far away from this state as possible. It’s my #1 goal on my bucket list.

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                Eh, depends on priorities. Only place in the world that compares in powder quality even remotely is a very rural area in Japan. Let alone southern Utah. But yeah the politics outside SLC are gigafucked

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                  I lived in California for two years and loved it, I didn’t have a regular job but money was sort of in the air - I never lacked for it. And the coast (I lived in Santa Cruz) was stunning. I can’t afford to move back, but that would be my #1 choice. I loved the laid back atmosphere and most of the people there.

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        You don’t have to go to medieval ages. It was legal to put certain ethnic groups in concentration camps only 80 years ago. Encouraged even…

        Genocide Joe must be punished for his support of israel.

        If you vote Biden this time it directly signals the Democrats that there is no line they are not allowed to cross.