Young people in China are becoming more rebellious, questioning their nation’s traditional expectations of career and family

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    6 months ago

    Ahh yes. Lemmy’s favorite. Another “China bad” article. This is the same shit as “no one wants to work anymore”. Non news, ignore this shit.

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    6 months ago

    It’s interesting because people are people and it doesn’t matter where you are born.

    If you look at it from a birds eye view you will see a younger, smart generation trying to fight it’s own governments.

    It’s not USA vs China vs Russia vs Europe etc. it is the younger generation vs the old generation. Currently each generation is fighting it’s own government and slowly realising how poor they have done in the last decades.

    Nobody wants war.

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      6 months ago

      Boomers want a war.

      I actually think that the biggest damage the parents of the Boomers committed was glorifying their war stories. Don’t get me wrong, I probably would have too so I’m not saying this out of judgement. But I think the Boomers grew up feeling like the only way to prove themselves was to fight as hard as their parents did. And when there weren’t any Nazis to be found, they found fights with anybody they could.

      … including their own children.

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      t’s not USA vs China vs Russia vs Europe etc. it is the younger generation vs the old generation

      No, it’s owning class vs working class, anything else is a distraction in service of the owning class.

      Workers of the world, unite! ✊

      (edited in image. If you need image description - source)

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        Even marxists don’t simplify the classes as much as that diagram suggests. It’s missing peasants, artisans and the petty bourgeois. It’s also never been as simple as capitalist vs working class. Capitalists regularly fight amongst themselves as do the working class. This whole idea of class struggle being the only struggle is so oversimplified it’s kinda silly.

        I don’t think it’s honest to frame it in generational language either btw. Though that is a component of it.

        • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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          This whole idea of class struggle being the only struggle is so oversimplified it’s kinda silly.

          There’s nothing wrong with a simplified model if it gets you the results you’re looking for. And for the vast majority of the working class thinking in simplistic terms such as capitalist vs. worker would improve their lives tremendously.

          The more complex models might be useful for explaining how things change and evolve. But mainly complexity is introduced by capitalists (or capitalist simps) to sow discord among workers and keep us from organizing effectively.

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            Why are all the marxists coming out of the wood work? Y’all can’t run a society for shit. Why are you still here and existing?

            China was one of your experiments that went wrong. Go and build a working model for a socialist or communist society and I might listen. Until then you have nothing to add. Anarchists had better luck than you guys and you killed them for it.

            • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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              I mean, call me whatever you want. It’s irrelevant. Do you need my vote or not? If you don’t then ignore me. If you do then pay attention.

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                Which country do you live in? I live in the UK so unless you are here it’s mostly irrelevant what you vote for.

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    6 months ago

    This message keeps being spread. Wonder how significant it is or if it’s like a handful and propagandists are making it out to be a trend?

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      6 months ago

      Weirdly TikTok only shows me streets full with fentinels in USA. I don’t know if that’s propaganda or is it real bad out there

      • PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world
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        Propaganda. Every city has one or two neighborhoods (usually full of working class minorities) where police dump the homeless and addicts from everywhere else. Each of those areas has one or two particularly bad streets that look like shit and make for great fear mongering.

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          At the risk of sounding like propaganda myself… Just because you don’t witness poverty and crime doesn’t mean it is propaganda. US has a major homeless and drug epidemic that is getting worse. It is easy for those with money to put it out of sight and ignore it.

          I’m visiting China for the first time right now for 2 weeks and I must say I’m very impressed with how clean the cities are and the lack of homeless and drug addicts.

          In the US my old house in OKC has been broken into twice by homeless and my parent’s house in Miami twice as well, and their car stolen twice. Walking to work in Brooklyn, people are literally sleeping on the sidewalks under trash bags every night as everyone walks past like they aren’t there.

          Even in my my home town in Vermont, population under 10,000, there are always homeless people out in the cold begging and sleeping in tents in the woods. These people have given up on life, or given bad luck, or addicted to drugs.

          I haven’t seen any of that in China so far. Sure there are some areas outside the city centers that are more depressing looking, lack much personality, and have run down buildings but at least everyone has a home, a job, and is taken care of. People here seem to have more respect for themselves and for others. It is part of the culture here.

          Everyone I talk to here says it is incredibly safe. In fact, today I saw my first 2 police cars on the highway for the first time a week into my trip. And we’ve been driving an average of 3 hours per day everywhere between Shenzhen and ChengDu (visiting factories ). There are many cameras everywhere but there isn’t a need for hundreds of police to patrol the streets non-stop like in every city in the US. I haven’t heard a single siren the entire trip either - in cities of 20 million. You won’t find that in NYC which has half the population. Just some thoughts I wanted to share, thanks for reading.