• Outsider9042@lemmy.world
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    Of all the distros I’ve hopped over the last 25 years, the most self destructive one has to have been Ubuntu.

    I use NixOS btw

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      same here! haven’t borked my system once since using nixOS

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              Ahh man gotta love NVIDIA. Most of my machines have an NVIDIA GPU, but I’ve had only a few minor issues along the way. Mostly from me not reading things correctly.

              Saw issues with flickering electron applications, sleep somehow running the GPU until my battery was drained, hyprland just saying not today and random crashes here and there.

              Systems are pretty stable now, laptop runs fine in hybrid mode (AMD / NVIDIA) and I removed almost all electron applications.

              I’ve found if I can’t figure something out I’ll start a new module for another package. But I guess if it’s something “mission critical” in your case a GPU then it’s pretty hard to do much else.

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                Yeah, I need GPU for CUDA, so it needs to work. It also doubles as my gaming laptop, which I could live without, but it would be suboptimal.

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      Meanwhile in Gentoo: Still compiling.

      Oh wait: binpkgs, update is done and I don’t have look at NixOS anymore. [=

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    Arch users overreacting to a meme is not helping refute it. I use arch, btw.

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    Also, this whole meme misses out on the whole fun factor of getting everything setup exactly how you want and all the learning along the way. The Arch user is way more likely to fix any issues that come up in the future rather than just nuking the install and starting over Windows-style like this meme suggests.

    Arch user rage bait and I guess I fell for it. I use arch btw.

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      If you actually want to use your machine, keeping the machine from nuking itself shouldn’t be a hobby on its own. I need a reliable platform to work on, not a minefield on a fault line.

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        Don’t know what you’ve been using but I sure wouldn’t describe Arch as any of that. Once things are setup, I’ve extremely rarely run into issues that I didn’t cause myself.

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          “That I didn’t cause myself” is basically self-gaslighting. Using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used shouldn’t cause any issues. Regular updates shouldn’t cause issues. Sure, it can happen, but it shouldn’t be the norm.

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            Recognizing your own mistakes is self-gaslighting now? FFS. And making a mistake sure is not “using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used.”

            Sometimes we make mistakes, it’s okay. If I wanted my OS to coddle me I wouldn’t be using Linux.

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              Doing an update is not a mistake.

              Again, this is exactly how the system is supposed to be used. You run whatever the update command is on your system occasionally. If that regularly breaks your system, the OS is not a stable platform. That might have its reasons, but it doesn’t change the facts.

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                It’s not a fact that updates regularly break the system. I’ve been using Arch for like 20 years now and I can count the amount of times that’s happened to me on one hand. I can do the same for CentOS and other distros as well.

                It also wasn’t what I was referring to when I said I broke my shit by a mistake so you’re sticking words in my mouth.

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                  Then you either have very large hands or don’t update that much. When I did use Arch for a while, Pacman often enough broke some stuff.

                  It also wasn’t what I was referring to when I said I broke my shit by a mistake so you’re sticking words in my mouth.

                  No, I interpret your words in a way appropriate here. You said, that only mistakes cause errors, I said that updates caused errors, and that I don’t think updates count as mistakes. So either you think that updating is a mistake, or we have fundamentally different experiences using Arch. I’m only sticking the shit in your mouth that you left their in the first place.

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      The only mistake I can remember not being mine, was with GRUB, in which grub-install installed stuff in a different way than what was already installed by EndaeavourOS beforehand, meaning that the default options didn’t work well.

      Of course, there might have been an eos application which was supposed to be used for that.

      Otherwise, whenever systems broke, they were my own doing, sometimes explicitly.

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    Enuf with the Arch hate already…

    Fedora and Debian are cool,
    but Arch is too,
    their Wiki is amazing and so is the AUR.

    And no I don’t use Arch btw,
    I use Manjaro,
    which has suited me fine for years now.

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        Enough with the Arch hate, already!
        Arch admins just want code sans spaghetti!
        Debian, Fedora, guess they can be cool…
        But us Arch users don’t need no ‘installer tool’

        We all know the Arch wiki’s amazin’,
        (but at the risk of some minor noob hazin’)
        If you can’t get far with their great AUR
        Then Mint might be more where you are

        Now as much as it pains me to say
        There’s no Arch on my box, by the way
        Manjaro’s OS has been my fave for years
        (To be honest Arch leaves many in tears)

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    And here I just spent an afternoon trying to get hibernation working on fedora unsuccessfully

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    I installed Arch once & it took less than 30mins to complete. Still using the same install, as it has literally never broken. This comic literally applies to those people who use Arch incorrectly…

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      About the same. Been using my arch install with KDE for about 5 years with no major problems at all. I use systemd boot so I’ve not had the issue with grub as other people seem to have had.

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        I’ve actually been meaning to give systemd boot a try. Been using grub just fine though & I’ve never actually had any problems with it…

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    With the amount of time and effort used to make this dumb meme I could have installed Arch a dozen times

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      Plus if anything Debian is more stringent regarding proprietary packages than Arch. Arch package manager will let you install open source drivers or proprietary drivers equally. If adhering to “extreme” moral values is the joke about being labelled vegan, then debian is the vegan one.

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        Many aspects of our society and culture including the fact that in the early teens random jokes at vegan’s expense were seen as normal rather than a fuck move

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        It’s a little silly to look at a whole nearly 10 years and not recognize culture has changed significantly, but here’s an example considering the other reply failed to produce one:

        Merely 1 year before, the internet was roiled by absolute massive drama that was basically masterminded by proto-incels upset that women were in the video game industry. They were extremely successful in framing a jilted ex’s story as somehow a question of ethics. It was not only impressive how seriously they were taken, but some aspects were just unquestioned as just “how the internet was” like making depictions of these public figures being beaten to a bloody pulp, when nowadays the kids have been having to make euphemisms for implying someone dying in any way to get around censors. It even spilled over into 2015, which is why I can even use it as an example for that year.

        In comparison, Gamergate 2 happened a few weeks ago. Its likely not many people here will even realize that even happened, and those that do recognize it was a whimpering yelp at best compared to the OG.

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      I think it’s a meme like arch users and vegans “how do you find them in a crowd? Don’t worry they’ll let you know”

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        In reality it’s mostly the opposide tho. Like in any Social Media post about plant based food you get bunch of meat eaters who have to announce to everyone how much they enjoy eating meat.

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          they really love doing that. around when i went vegan someone i know was asking me about it and then stopped talking to me entirely because i “bring up veganism too much” after like 2 conversations that i did not initiate.

          meanwhile you literally cannot escape meat eaters either talking about how much they love meat or condemning imaginary people who are trying to make them eat bugs or something and conflating that with veganism, yet vegans are annoying.

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      I’ve used all these distros and I’ve never contributed shit lol. Love that shirt though… Is the v supposed to be like the vim logo? Or maybe upside down arch.

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    I’ll repeat what I said the last time this was posted: NO f*cking way the Fedora guy got past the partition configuration step without pulling at least a few hairs out! I love Fedora, but that UI is just cursed!

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        I love Anaconda, but I will admit the partition management isn’t very intuitive. That is the only thing I can ding it on though, in every other regard it’s an amazing installer.

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        this is the way

        on my main system i have arch with a partitioning scheme that has worked well for me because i took time to research and identify what i needed from it. i even got full disk encryption working after the fact!

        on fedora i click automatic partitioning, wipe the drives i want, and don’t do more than that because the partitioning screen feels extremely confusing.

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    I can only laugh at the comics they need to make to justify their distros. I use my Arch machine for work and it works far better than when I was using Debian. Also I am not putting up with an ancient kernel and Nvidia drivers. I even have to setup pipewire manually on debian and on Fedora it’s codecs. Both ridiculous.

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    Installed with archinstall and got it up and running in less than 30 minutes. Assuming you have used linux before it really shouldn’t take too long, i use arch btw