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    10 months ago

    That Covid was made.

    I dont really think its true, but the richest get richer with every catastrophe, people actually believe “everything just gets more expensive” (which is absolute bullshit and rich people just use it to make more profits). Also, genetically modifying some viruses should be totally possible today.

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      I don’t buy it because scientists have been saying for more than a decade that the “wet market” culture in China was a “ticking time bomb” for something like COVID to appear.

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        Yes that too makes sense. If people stopped eating animals, damn… the reserve antibiotics we could save for like… actually emergencies

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          That’s not the reasoning. The reasoning is that the “Wet Markets” involve a lot of live mammals being kept in close proximity, creating a breeding ground for really nasty viruses to make the interspecies jump to humans.

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            Yes, and to circumvent this naturally occuring germ breeding pool, in countries like Germany animals get pumped up with antibiotics, even the reserve ones, so that this doesnt happen here even though its just as bad.

            Yeah, eeeeeverything fine here.

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                  Not keeping them in cramped filthy conditions like those that exist in Chinese meat markets. Particularly small mammals which are genetically similar enough to humans for a virus to jump species. There’s a reason all the nastiest plagues have come from people trying to eat bats and monkeys.

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                    Factory farming suffering animals, especially chicken live under exactly those conditions, just that we dont see them

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoonosis

                    Bats are not genetically similar to us, but the same as birds they can carry diseases over distance.

                    Lots of diseases came from “regular western farm animals”

    • This, I could believe. As an escaped bioweapons project (less likely), or as a flu vaccine research project gone wrong (most likely). I don’t believe it, per se - it doesn’t satisfy Occam’s Razor - but it’s within the realm of not-so-insane.

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        I personally think it ain’t even that big but literally same. They were just studying viruses for all potential, bioweapons to vaccine research. Covid itself wasn’t made for any particular reason it was just the one that got leaked from the lab.

        China’s biggest fault was not realizing at some point on an infinite timeline there will absolutely be a leak, how do we respond? And they lied about the initial leak and infection.

        Other than that, playing with viruses what else did we expect? I don’t think any malice was attached to the leak, just as you said, stupidity and probably some arrogance.

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          Epidemics and plagues have been part of life forever. It’s not like we had never seen anything like this before that warrants exploring alternative explanations. We’ve never been more connected. This was predicted and it will happen again.

          Without a solid case supported by evidence we have to assume the simpler explanation.