I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who’s so fragile on opinions and things that they’ll scream ‘BAN THEM BAN THEM!’.
I’ve been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc
And I’d stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it’s the same questions I’ve seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they’ll be hours old and some of them can be years old.
I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you’re allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don’t really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.
I don’t know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you’re dealing with 50 people at any given day.
I personally love the smaller userbase. Less spam, more quality, less screentime, no doomscrolling. Its a win-win in my book.
Plus you get to see the same accounts, the entirety of Lemmy feels like a community
Same. The only thing being niche subs on local stuff. But I remember early Reddit, and that had the same feel. Maybe with a bit more generalized memes because the hivemind was so much more exciting.
But the lack of automated astroturf and shorter comment sections makes it easy more pleasant.
Yes there needs to be more people. There’s barely any active discussion here. If you don’t want to shit on Israel, there’s just shit posts and Linux. We need more people to get active sports discussion, movies, TV, or anything else.
I moved to lemmy hoping it would be like classic Reddit, which it is to some extent. Unfortunately, my experience has been more like browsing Imgur – just endless memes and shitposts.
I tried blocking all the meme-focused communities I could find, but now my feed feels like a ghost town.
Did you have a look at !newcommunities@lemmy.world and https://lemmyverse.net/communities ?
What are your interests?
movies
TV
sport
!football@lemmy.world (not sure what you like)
Did you have a look at !newcommunities@lemmy.world and https://lemmyverse.net/communities ?
I’d love a more active sports area. I comment semi regularly in a few. There is small engagement, but would love even 10-15% more.
For me the biggest problem is not volume in general but volume of niche content. The best thing about Reddit was all the active, engaging communities that would sprawl around any niche subject you could imagine.
You know, you actually hit the nail on the head in the context I had failed to articulate. Like yes the Fediverse does have some interesting communities, but they’re communities we expect of the fediverse to have that everyone else has. But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.
And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth. Because the point of the matter is if people are desperate for a Reddit alternative, they’re going to want to feel like they’re home. If there’s nothing here that’s going to help make them feel that, then they’re going to just stick to Reddit for better or worse.
But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.
There’s only so many communities you can maintain active with 45k monthly active users
And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth.
Why do you think we don’t?
- https://feddit.uk/post/18600084
- https://kbin.melroy.org/m/reddit@lemmy.world/t/505901/It-feels-like-the-group-has-much-more-to-gain
There’s only so many communities you can maintain active with 45k monthly active users
Then you’ve just proved my point then on how little there is to do and see beyond the basics. One would think that with a number such as 45k, there’d be a lot more communities around than just the general stuff.
And I see that you’re running multiple places as is. I’d like to see more contributing users than just one dude.
I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth.
This is the way - be the change you want to see in the world.
Lemmy isn’t the size of Reddit, so it isn’t at a place where the vast majority of users can just passively consume content.
If there’s a niche for a community then start it. If you want more Mods, keep an eye out for active posters and ask if they want to help. If you are unsure about starting a community or want help from the start (as it might be popular) then start a thread on !fedigrow@lemm.ee. The more active communities, the more likely it is for the next wave of users to stick around and some of them might start new communities.
If you build it they will indeed come and stay.
1000% agree. But to Lemmy’s credit, I found a greate niche community of linux and programming enthusiasts, plus I’ve noticed I run into Europeans more in the wild on here.
I think the fediverse has it’s benefits. Still not a full replacement. Truthfully I don’t think it will ever be, those niche communities will always end up being hosted where it suits them best.
Yeah, well said
That’s why people use reddit
What niches are you in?
!newcommunities@lemmy.world has a lot of active communities on different topics
I miss the NBA subreddit the most. Lemmy.world has a community, but it’s not very active.
You probably need automated matches threads.
We have them on !football@lemmy.world , that helps a lot to get activity
I think they have one. It’s just the offseason right now. Technically the preseason but I hope they turn it back on for the regular season.
r/armoredcore
r/theforeverwinter
r/noncredibledefense
r/gundam
r/girlsfrontline
r/edgerunners
r/animecirclejerk
r/hololive
r/kurosanji
r/trenchcrusade
r/virtualyoutubers
r/gachagaming
r/noncredibledefense
!noncredibledefense@sh.itjust.works
r/gundam
r/girlsfrontline
!gachagaming@lemmy.world, recently requested by @agranapezeta@lemmy.world : https://lemmy.world/post/20905853
You can use https://lemmyverse.net/communities to search for communities
I just wish it had more diversity.
Everyone’s a white 40-year-old born male Linux admin in here.Hey! I’m a white 30-year-old born female Linux user, clearly Lemmy is burgeoning with diversity!
I’m a 40-year-old white man? I had no idea
Sorry you had to find out this way
Welcome! Here’s your complimentary Thinkpad and cat.
Congratulations. But being in your 20s is better. At least you get to be white I guess.
Who tf is born 40 years old???
There’s plenty of diversity if you join boards focused on them, like LGBTQ communities. I think the defaults just lean excessively into the demographic you described.
Yep, Hexbear is generally more diverse, even if it still leans towards the general Lemmy demographics. The presence of communities like Traa and strong pro-LGBTQ moderation helps that greatly, same with anti-zionism.
I’m a 25 year old Asian American
Hey! I’m 32.
It does. You aren’t looking. I always feel a sense that I am talking to people from other parts of the world. Moreso than anywhere’s else.
It depends how you define diversity. The overwhelming majority of content is for the white, Anglicised gaze. You could argue that there is diversity within that group but it is still narrow enough that the content posted is pretty repetitive.
https://feddit.cl, https://feddit.org and https://jlai.lu are quite active if you speak the languages
I only know the sex of one person on Lemmy, and she’s not a man.
I wish I was that young!
im actually a 30 y/o social sciences graduate il have you know
Yes, I wish there would be more. But I am okay with the state it’s in. The engagement is good enough, and I discover interesting things every other day. You can’t force it anyway.
When I used to have Reddit on my phone, I’d look at it as soon as I woke up. There was new content constantly throughout the day so I kept coming back.
Lemmy doesn’t have the content churn, so I can genuinely just look once a day and spend an hour or so catching up. No FOMO! I much prefer it.
However I do miss some of the niche subreddits that got reasonable activity on Reddit and absolutely zero activity here. They were my favourite part of Reddit.
I’d take more activity in those niche places, but I don’t miss the addiction I had.
Spez let me go cold turkey for a while. Thanks (fuck) Spez.
Niche subreddits can have good content, and also I find myself looking at Reddit threads that come up in web searches, like if I search for a tech problem I’m having. But yes, the behaviour of Reddit as a profit-hungry corporation makes me want to not use Reddit or see their ads.
Same here, Reddit has a lot more people one there. With more people posting funny memes, videos and other things that make using Reddit more enjoyable. I try to limit my time on Reddit as much as possible
You could always browse it with an ad blocker so they don’t make ad revenue from your attention.
Same here
Post something then. Go to whatever your niche sub is and post on it. People will see it and you might get some engagements. I recently posted in !knives@sopuli.xyz and !geocaching@lemmy.world and got engagement.
yes! I posted a similar question in a diff community and someone responded: " be the change you want to see". that’s pretty much all we can do! :)
I’d like to not to.
I would much prefer seeing other people build as well, see what they bring up and whatnot. I’ve tried before on creating communities to moderate and all I’d feel like is being some of those Reddit moderators who moderate an absurd amount of subreddits.
That’s not what I want.
Maybe less content is good? Infinitely scrolling is not great, and we all know that. Having limited content on Lemmy allows me to at least move onto something else.
Yeah but also the content is quite repetitive imo
Yeah and it depends. The fact that there is no easy way to search the fedi for similar posts right now is a bit cumbersome for sure.
I see a lot of new users post something that has already been answered a 10000x times (What’s the best Linux distro? It depends !) And luckily there’s always someone to give a mature and comprehensive answer to a new comer without scaring him or down voting him to oblivion. This shows that there are a lot of people who believe in Lemmy and are ready to repeat themselves to keep Lemmy alive and give new comers a warmly welcome ! However I have only seen that kind of interaction in the Linux/self-hosted communities… Most memes/ask Lemmy/political views/… Communities seems rather hostile on their own opinions and quickly become a cesspool of anger and hate :/.
Also a lot of people think because some communities have a lower user base they won’t get any answer or interaction I was quite surprised to get a comprehensive answer and help in the bash@lemmy.ml community which has only 50 users/month !
I wasn’t referring to that kind of posts, since they “plague” Reddit too, but the posts from Reddit that gets crossposted on Lemmy. It’s like there is little to no original content here. Maybe mastodon is a bit better, though I feel like it’s slowly dying ngl
For a recent thread with other manual hobbies communities
- https://sh.itjust.works/post/26695650
- !newcommunities@lemmy.world for other instances
This whole thread is wild with Lemmy expectations lol. Reddit is a link aggregation site, same as here. Are you wanting more artists and authors posting on here for it to be considered “original”? All the links to articles or sites people are posting…aren’t really considered original. There are plenty of discussions going on that are original, but they tend to be upvoted less than posted link content so you have to usually search them out in the actual community.
This whole thread is wild with Lemmy expectations lol.
Yeah, it feels like people have expectations like the website is 100k or 200k monthly active members. We are barely 45k, so the scope has to be limited
Likely to promote and increase activity people will try to repost what was already popular on reddit. It’s no different than movie studios wanting to only make movies that have preexisting fanbases.
I don’t think there’s much that can be done other than being patient and guiding how things grow. Reddit took a decade to build. Lemmy’s journey will likely be long, but it probably won’t take 10yrs. Solutions to existing problems will happen over time.
Ohh my bad !
It just takes time. More passionate posters will come. Reddit is mostly ai-generated at this point.
I wish more technically focused communities had a real home here. I’ll google something, and see that the project I’m working on has a dedicated subreddit where someone asked my question. Wish I could see lemmy in my search results.
There is no guarantee that there will be more posters. This place might very well disappear in a few years.
Doubtful. Individual instances, yes, but lemmy overall? No.
Even when I left reddit a year ago, most accounts on the front page were reposts bots. If you spent more than a year or two on reddit, you realize everything on the front page is recycled content.
I do, yes, especially for niche communities. But other social networks aren’t the answer. Go look at what Reddit has become, or Twitter, or Facebook. It’s all junk. Half of it is AIs talking to AIs. There’s almost no meaningful conversation taking place. At least here we occasionally get some good conversations, although those are rare outside of politics and Linux.
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Hard to have enshittification in a FOSS platform.
Corpo shills --> bots --> ads disguised as content --> shit
Again, difficult on a FOSS platform.
I used reddit for two things: news, and niche subcommunities around small hobbies and fandoms.
We’ve got the former here, but I don’t know if we’d ever have enough of a critical mass to sustain the latter. And that sucks for me, because I no longer have a good space for that stuff, but I still don’t ever want to go back to reddit now.
We do, people just have to put in the work. I run two niche communities. Satisfactory and Taylor Swift. Both take time to run and manage, I had to be the sole poster in both for a good long time before other people started jumping in and posting with me. Someone has to be willing to put themselves out there.
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Thank you for your service. 🫡
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Thank you for your service. 🫡
Same here
I worry sometimes that the reddit exodus brought mostly bellyachers.
The sheer boringness of these repeated questions about the size, growth, health of the fediverse.
Fuck metrics. Jesus, do you mot get it at all?
Agreed! Seriously people this is not reddit. It does not have a bajillion users. Stop asking for it to have a billion users! This question has been asked So. Many. Times. I’m content with the amount of users here, of people want to invite more than invite more, but what is this post? “I have noticed that there are fewer users”. Correct! Next question.
If you think this question is being asked too much, go and sit at AskReddit sometime. Count the many, many times you will see questions like ‘Why are you single?’ or "What would you do if someone gave you a million dollars?’ or similarly worded questions. They are posted by the hour, almost nonstop.
You get a question like mine like once in a few weeks or a month maybe. But you hadn’t seen anything until you check out AskReddit.
You are … making my point.
Indeed
You lot. (Orbital)
Use the site less frequently and you will discover more content each time you come. I kind of like how it moves slower.
Of course, I want the fediverse to grow to. If it ever moves to fast I can always block lemmy.world and be crazy with my fellow dorks on lemmy.ml
Lemmy seems to have quite a lot of people to be fair. Apparently Lemmy.world has nearly 7,000 users a day, which is quite a lot when you think about it.
One thing I think about is that maybe there are drawbacks to the Reddit-style format of Lemmy. A cool thing about old internet forums is that posts were show in chronological order with no upvotes, which is more similar to a real world conversation. You’d read the most recent posts, rather than the most upvoted posts. This means somebody new to the conversation can have their opinion seen.
The upvoting system means that a small number of posts get nearly all the upvotes and attention, and people who post later have their posts largely ignored.
Maybe I’m wrong but it’s just something I thought about.
“New comments” allows to see the latest comments in conversations. Which is why I’m replying to you, while there are already 97 other comments here.
Sure that is true. Thank you for looking at my post and replying to it by the way. But I was just thinking how some people might just look at the top comments and nothing else. Maybe the upvote system does have some benefits though, like making bad posts less visible.
I imagine it’s something of a difference in expected audience behavior. I would think that, for most people, looking at a few of the top comments and their replies is all the engagement with a post they want to have. So, a voting system facilitates that process by highlighting a few items the hive mind likes, and leaving the rest in relative obscurity. Whereas forum style posting sort of assumes that everyone present in a thread is in conversation with one another, hence chronological organization.
Fair point, different people like different things. It’s interesting that forums are less popular now though. I signed up for Ars Technica’s forum the other day, maybe I should try it out more.
The problem with chronological forum, is that it was a used tactic to post massively new topics to “hide” some controversial topic on the “second page”. Not to say that voting doesn’t have its own problem.
Fair point, but maybe you could restrict an account to only make one thread every 10 minutes or something. And require a CAPTCHA and email or phone verification for new accounts. I guess organising and moderating social media style sites is not a simple task though.
Lemmy’s frontend default sort (Hot) is weighted heavily by time. Your comment is currently at the top, being the most recent. The second most recent is the second to top comment.
The largest Lemmy instance is the most boring, full of unfunny memes and the worst Redditor culture. What you want is high quality postrs, not simply more people!
As Lenin said: better fewer, but better.
At this point I’ve blocked so many .world communities that I don’t see that as much. There are some users who I notice bring the reddit antagonism and I tend to block them too. If I come across a post that is full of reddit quips I just block the whole community. I guess I’ve blocked fewer .ml communities overall.
Good on you! I bet that is actually working out great. I should try something similar with another account.
I don’t know. I do understand the preference of quality over quantity, but there is a limit. There’s a difference between reddit anime discussion, where each episode discussion has hundreds of diverse opinions - most being shitty - sure, but while the voting system is flawed, the interesting comments do tend to rise. and between lemmy’s anime discussions, where an episode has…let me check: between 0 to two comments: https://lemmy.world/c/anime or https://ani.social/c/anime. That is really sad. Not to mention that reddit has so much niche subreddits
Be the change you seek! Most anime communities will let you post episode discussions, and if your instance is active enough you’ll draw viewers sorting by new.
Having enough users for a community is important, I agree! I think that with the current size of Lemmy userbases, communities are often more like topic flags than self-sustaining niches.
Though to pick on Reddit, every time mods crack down on bots their subreddits decrease in posts and comments around tenfold. A lot of the engagement is fake. Mostly to boost numbers for financial reasons but they can also serve as a means of controlling behaviors and narratives.
this is a very elitist approach camarad
It’s not really elitist, Lemmy was founded as an alternative to Reddit, but Lemmy.world is a repitition of it, not to mention the anti-Marxist pro-zionist moderators. It’s understandable that people leaving Reddit don’t want the same thing as Reddit.
Hum I doubt even the majority of mod are “anti marxist” or “pro zionist”… may be you’re looking at the more active communities, with few mod over them… But for what I read I never had that impression
Here are a few examples of the mods denouncing Socialism and Marxism, and they perma-banned me from political memes for going against the liberal narrative for “misinformation and posturing” despite leaving up the Zionist lie that the Palestinian genocide is a 1000 year conflict. This is also when one of the moderators claimed they weren’t censoring anyone and were incredibly fair on a comment chain calling out their censorship, and refused to elaborate. They would not even tell me how I could edit my comments to comply with their rules.
They defederated from Hexbear “as a last resort-” before ever federating with Hexbear.
In the Lemmygrad defederation thread, there’s unsupported claims of hate speech and calls to violence, which we have to fill in the blanks - the mods are anti-Marxist and anti-revolution, so any Marxist instance is going to fail that test.
The Hexbear defederation thread is somehow worse when they list why instead of leaving it to the imagination. Read some of the top comments, it’s clear that it was anti-Socialist in motive. Real spooky scary zingers listed as evidence in the post like “The West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people living both inside and outside of their imperial core.” This statement is 100% obvious to anyone not stanning the US Empire.
Another example listed is “These organizations constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.” Yet again, they are defederated for being Marxists, and therefore being revolutionary. This is just because they are authentically Marxist, not because posters were mean.
The mods of Lemmy.world are Liberals. Not just any liberals, but “true believers.” Marxism is dangerous to them and so they shut it out, they spelled it out plainly.
Even your leftist meme in Political Memes is getting you called a “tankie.”
It is not elitist to reject unfunny garbage from Reddit brains
So you think if something is bad enough it is ok to discriminate again. Meaning you place the bar of disparaging some contend at around average value , so not at high elite value.
That can hold. It still depend on your value judgement of the content in question. Someone could think that lemmy.ml contend is “unfunny garbage”.
The point of a site like this one, is that not one person is the decider. Not you or me. Users vote what is or is not funny, so that the “avergagely” funny systematically go on top. The more people they are, the more the average will mirror the real world population… I think considering the average population to not be “worthy” is pretty elitist. There are a lot of problem in such a site: Hive mind, trolling, mass vote, bot usage… But discriminating against normal human user (even the worse one) doesn’t seems to me like a solution
Uh… I am the decider of what I identify as tired unfunny memes. Nothing wrong with that!