Bread is CIVILIZATION
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Sometimes I’ll just throw a baguette in the oven and bake it until it’s nice and crunchy and while it’s still hot I’ll break the top off and just start picking at it and eating it as a snack.
This person is enlightened. Bread is love, bread is life 🥖
Bread is best as a butter or cheese delivery vehicle.
No matter how you slice it, only the upper crust of bread society can cut it as a standalone food.
Yeah but that factory white bread in the supermarket is literally the devil. How else can it stay good for so long?
Factory white bread is just misunderstood. It’s not meant for anything fancy, it’s designed for PBnJ or a quick bologna sandwich. If you’re putting more than a slice of cheese and ultra processed meat slurry on it, you’re misusing it.
That is because it is not bread. It is simply a bread-like edible substance.
Bread is still one of those real old school basic foods, that comes with a decent somewhat similar old school basic price.
I don’t care if it’s good or bad, i want to have some money left at the end of the month instead of having month left at the end of your money.
There used to be punishments for bakers adulterating flour to make profits; medieval communities were so reliant on the bread that the Lords went out of their way to regulate bakeries and ensure high wages for bakers to prevent that from happening (i.e: Adding chalk).
I’m confused about the single full stop. It shows they have knowledge of basic punctuation, but refuse to use it.
They also resent anti-runon-sentence propaganda
What is there to be confused about? They can speak english correctly, but they simply refuse doing so due to a lack of respect for the language. Almost every professor at my uni is also like this: they have the skills to follow grammatical rules, but they don’t owe it to anyone to actually do it. This is normal.
Also any language where through and threw sound identical doesn’t deserve much respect.
Huh, I thought you were joking, but I just checked on google translate, and apparently the correct way to pronounce “threw” really is the same as “through”. I always pronounced “threw” a bit more in the front of my mouth so it has a different sound. Crazy stuff.
Here’s a bunch of better examples (it’s a 1 minute video).
For thousands of years the peak of life has been eating fresh bread and drinking wine, it still is tbh. For maximum luxery add fresh cooked meat to the bread :3
And CHEESE !
I used to make a lot of bread and things like pizza dough. I’ve even grown and ground my own wheat and other grains.
And then my partner developed and/or decided they have a gluten sensitivity. Yes I’ve tried making gluten-free whatever but it’s not the same. I want my gluteny-goodness.
I will harbor this resentment forever.
I know it’s not the same, but if you don’t have the sensitivity, then obviously you don’t have to eat the same food.
And yes, I agree, most gluten free replacements are kinda bad. Nowhere near as bad as they were 20 years ago, though. Took me months, but I actually did find a gluten free pasta that’s honestly edible and doesn’t ruin the dish with some weird texture or taste I don’t like.
I only tell you this because I too used to think gluten-free is a fad and people are just “imagining” benefits from going gluten-free free.
I’ve had a stomach pain my entire life. No doctor ever suggested going gluten free and I even had a biopsy taken at 18 to see whether it’s celiacs. Either it was a false negative or I have what is known as NCGS, Non-celiac gluten sensitivity.
And it’s genuinely not a joke.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10593161/
Non-celiac gluten sensitivity (NCGS) has been shown to occur in individuals without serological or biopsied evidence of celiac disease (CD), who manifest psychotic ormood disorders that resolve following elimination of gluten. In this case history, we discuss a similar manifestation in a 31-year-old woman without serological evidence of CD, whose psychiatric symptoms improve with gluten elimination.
A 31-year-old Caucasian woman with a history of severe gluten sensitivity, Hashimoto’s disease, mosaic turner’s syndrome, and presumed schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type with multiple inpatient psychiatric involuntary admissions presented to the ED on petition for aggressive behavior by law enforcement. The patient had a week-long break-down at her parents’ home, where she also resides. She reportedly broke several objects and threatened to slit her mother’s throat. On the physical exam, she was malodorous, disheveled, and had long extremely matted hair. Psychiatric evaluation was notable for rambling speech, dysphoric mood, agitation, and irritability. Thought content was disorganized and consisted of grandiose and paranoid persecutory delusions. She was emergently given Haldol for worsening agitation, as she became physically threatening.
And all that goes a way by not ingesting gluten. So you know, which would you rather, a crazy gf and donuts or a friendly gf with some gluten tree donuts which are like sort of okay?
I’m not saying your gf has NCGS but just saying I understand the resentment (id sell my own mother for some proper gluteny carbonara) but going gluten and dairy free (casein, the milk protein, often also caused symptoms with NCGS patients, might want to maybe let your gf know if she’s improved with gluten free but still experiencing some GI symptoms) may have improved her well being so much that I think you should at least try to get over the resentment.
You can always go eat out alone. But if she’s maintaining a strict diet, she prolly shouldn’t go to a single fast food burger place. Some of them offer gluten free buns but they don’t guarantee the meal to be glutenfree as its made in the same kitchen. Also, worth asking if they’re have a separate deep frier for gluten free things if getting fries.
Sorry for the rant. I truly understand the resentment and the hankering for cheesy gluteny goodness, trust me. But I also know how massively the diet can improve life quality (Google “gluten belly” for instance for some insta girls showing the difference). And I know how frustrating it can feel when other people see it as something that’s not "really necessary", instead treating it somewhat like someone not liking pickles in their cheeseburger. (I’m sure you don’t treat her like that, I’m talking about people I know.)
And it’s genuinely not a joke.
I’m well aware.
Carbs aren’t evil but if you don’t want to be overweight you have to eat carbs in moderation. It’s not that hard gang.
What a load of bullshit. Tell that to the Italians, where they eat ridiculous amounts of pasta, pizza and baked goods a and have the lowest obesity rates in Europe.
Food quality + more walking + meat in moderation.
Lol how is food quality, moderation with meat portioning, and exercise not calories in vs calories out? Guaranteed Italian portions are lighter and their food has less calories per meal.
Who said anything about calories? Of course it’s about calories. You said carbs are reason people get fat.
Can you differentiate between “carbohydrates” and “calories”?
So you’re either saying that “food makes you fat”, which is a real genius moment, or that “carbohydrates make you fat” which is simply false.
I thought you were replying to my other response, which simply stated that weight loss is mostly calories in vs calories out. High carb foods tend to have more calories. That’s all I’m saying here. You can eat carbs in moderation and live a healthy lifestyle and still lose weight. Like Jesus man, calm the fuck down hahaha
You’re putting an insane amount of words in my mouth here.
My dude, that’s not what you said in the top comment.
You’re perpetuating a bullshit myth about carbs making you fat, which is pure nonsense.
Now, when you’re called out, you’re adding all these asterisks.
Man I’m just so not interested in wasting anymore time with this stupidity. Believe what you want.
Yeah, good choice. Next time please don’t waste everybody’s time with bs misinformation and don’t click that “post” button. Thanks in advance.
I like to go to the bakery down the street and buy a loaf, then just eat the whole thing while it’s still fresh. I’m a scrawny little spitfuck.
Obviously metabolisms can affect things. Also anecdotal evidence on a platform where you post anonymously is less than worthless. It holds about as much weight as me telling you that when I switch to low carb while keeping my portion sizes the same I lose weight.
You said “if you don’t want to be overweight, you have to eat carbs in moderation.” I am not doing that, and am not overweight.
If you’re going to word something as absolute, on the internet, you better be prepared for exceptions in reply.
Dude your anecdotal evidence from an anonymous account does not trump reality but go off buddy.
Isn’t Low Carb debunked? As long as you eat halfway clean and at a deficit, you lose weight. And you don’t gain weight by eating a lot of carbs, as long as you don’t have a caloric surplus.
Weight loss is literally calories in vs calories out. That’s it. Carbs generally have way more calories than foods without carbs. Low carb definitely works for weight loss, so I don’t know if I’d call that debunked.
It’s really simple. But these fad diet cultures we get sucked into have made us all crazy it feels like.
Any restrictive diet can lead to weight loss, because you’re not allowed to eat the stuff you wanna eat, so you don’t eat as much.
If there’s nothing special about carbs (and I don’t think there is…) that’s what I’d call “debunked.”
High carb foods have more calories than low carb ones by a wide margin. Which is why it works. And if it works, it is not debunked.
Fat has more than double the calorie density, I’m not sure what you mean by “high carb food have more calories”.
Well you shouldn’t go heavy on high fat foods either. Where did I say that you should?
and at a deficit, you
Well that’s the thing, carbs are just very calorie dense so eating cards makes it harder to eat at a deficit.
Isn’t Low Carb debunked?
What does this even mean? Nobody that I know of has ever asserted that low carb diets are the only way to lose weight. Low carb diets tend to reduce appetite which helps in achieving a calorie deficit, that’s all .
Actually fat makes you fat and carbs make you crab
The incessant lurch of time makes us crab and there’s nothing we can do about it
Exactly. Might as well indulge in feasting on Jesus’s body.
That sounds like something a carapaced bottom-dwelling aquatic scavenger would say…
No, carapaced bottom-dwelling aquatic scavenger was my father.
You got it all wrong, you just have to work out a lot and then eat all the carbs you want
Hell yeah! This also works! It’s what I generally have to do to lose weight because I fucking love high calorie high carb foods. I also love jogging though so it evens out.
Bread is my favourite carb, and it isn’t close. I had a period in my teens of sandwiching everything. Chili? Sandwich. Curry? Sammich. Stews? You guessed it: big mess.
When I first moved to Japan and was shopping at a supermarket, I noticed they sell yakisobapan. so grilled noodles in bred. I guess as a kid I would use my garlic bread to make a little sandwich with spaghetti so I kinda get it, but still.
Woah, is it you, Sloppy Joe himself?? 😲
I’m in my mid/late thirties and I still put almost everything in bread. My 4 years old sometimes make bread sandwiches (one type of bread in another type of bread). I’m not there, yet.
Alright, a bread sandwich is interesting. Now I love me some bread, but doesn’t the distinction between loaf 1 and loaf 2 get lost in all the breadyness? If they want a hybrid loaf they probably make those. I suppose at 4 they’re not making themselves, but the bread maker… you… might.
I thought I loved bread, perhaps I merely enjoy it.
No you have to mix the breads. For example, you take a slice of some random bread, put a piece of Lebanese flat bread on it and voilà. And the Child does make the sandwiches. At least those ones.
Bakers knead bread to explore their souls.
And get ripped forearms.
Whole grain bread is okay, depending on brand and quality (Ezekial bread is the only good kind I normally have acess to). Any kind that’s not whole grain (or good quality whole grain) contributes to diabetes risk. That is not love. That is hurt.
Switched for whole grain bread for that exact reason, I found out I’m pre-diabetic so my next step after paying attention to my diet will be taking up exercise.
Nice! You might like this channel, they specialize in lifestyle treatment of diabetes, and have a book on the subject as well.
I also eat cake, red meat, smoked meat, vegetables high in oxalates, various fried foods, and occasionally drink alcohol. Life should not be about eliminating every risky behavior, it should be about fulfillment and weighing risk against probability and payoff. We all die eventually and I want to eat tasty food before I get there.
I recently saw an infographic that showed the risk of death for getting out of bed at 90 years old is the same as the risk of hang gliding. To me, this means you should take up hang gliding when you’re 90.
More seriously, you should take risks to have a full and rewarding life. Those risks can be mitigated. I’ve ridden motorcycles, but I also wear a helmet and safety gear while doing it.
False dichotomy. I can eat all kinds of delicious foods, even having my health and eating my cake, and the best part is I don’t have to perform any mental gymnastics to ignore any guilt or shame about the suffering my diet causes. There’s something poetic about the best possible things for me, being the best possible things for all other beings out there. In reality, you just don’t know what you’re missing.
No mental gymnastics because I don’t have orthorexia nervosa. There’s no guilt or shame. (None that aren’t universal to all consumption under capitalism, anyway)
Also, if we’re going to start shifting blame to capitalism, please tell me how your ideal system of governance would manage to get the current 98-95% of individuals who are consuming harmful and unethical foods to change? Corporations have a lot of blame for the toxic food environment and food deserts to be sure. But also in the case of the food industry, their harmful practices are driven by consumer demand for the most addictive, hyperpalatable foods. Nothing can change without enough individuals choosing to do better.
Dude, orthorexia nervosa Isn’t real. You just have your head in the sand.
You sacrifice and sacrifice, cutting everything out of your habits or diet that may bring you pleasure, only for the sake of extending your life. Then at the end of it all, you look back in dismay, in the dismal realization that despite your years, you have never lived at all…
You’re basically saying the same thing the other person who replied to my comment said, so see here. No sacrifice, and your characterization of longevity is an unfounded myth. The pursuit of health doesn’t just expand years, it increases quality of life in the here and now. There’s a word for it, “healthspan”. Pursuing health and longevity leads to greater tasting food, because it involves cutting out all the hyperpalatable bombs of added sugar, fat, and salt that fry your taste buds so much that all you can taste is those kinds of foods. Do you even know what real food tastes like? I can have the pleasure of great food, the ecstasy of intense exercise, and the fulfillment of any other of life’s worthwhile joys.
You sound incredibly pretentious.
I’m sorry, but I’m not talking about McDonalds. I’m not talking about engineered food products. I mean a good thick slab of fresh bread made from flour, salt, a bit of sugar, and not much else. Served with a big dash of butter. That is heaven.
The healthspan stuff? Completely irrelevant to my point. What is the point of a healthspan if you deny yourself all the pleasures of life? Enjoy all things in moderation. But I firmly reject this whole, “well…have a little wheat bread if you muuust…anything else is abusive.”
“Do you even know what real food tastes like?”
Well you clearly know what your own farts smell like. Jesus Wept! Your head is so far up your ass you can see the contents of your own stomach.
So all you can do is resort to ad hominems? Grow up.
Reading “anti crab” propaganda made me think extra.
Did… Did they just make a “pee is stored in the balls” reference?
We should stage a conquest of bread.
God gave us grain but not bread so that we, too, could indulge in the joy of creation.
