Remember when politicians said everyone should get covid to develop heard-immunity? And then we had more than one million deaths since then?

  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
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    What if there was a way for everyone’s body to know about measles, without actually getting measles.

    That would be pretty cool huh?

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      Yeah but you’d have to kind of train everyone’s immune system by somehow introducing it to the virus without the person actually getting infected.

      Seems impossible.

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        What if we did something to the virus so that it couldn’t make us sick, but still made our bodies thing we were sick?

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    Also measles resets your immune system. Your immune system keeps records of all the crap it’s fought, making it easier to fight next time. When you get measles, it’s like you’re a new born. So he’s not only allowing ppl to die, he’s making it easier for future illnesses to kill as well.

    article on measles

    Two studies of unvaccinated children in an Orthodox Protestant community in the Netherlands found that measles wipes out the immune system’s memory of previous illnesses, returning it to a more baby-like state, and also leaves the body less equipped to fight off new infections.

    The first paper, led by Velislava Petrova, of the Wellcome Sanger Institute and Cambridge University, says measles erodes two separate lines of defence of the immune system.

    To tackle previously unseen infections, the immune system relies on constantly pumping out a diverse range of immune cells – thousands of different varieties, each with slightly different receptors on their surfaces, with a collective ability to recognise almost any pathogen.

    “The more diverse range of them we have, the better,” said Petrova. However, after measles, the children had a far more restricted range.

    The immune system also creates long-lived memory cells, which remain permanently in circulation, allowing the body to rapidly recognise and eliminate previously encountered infections.

    However, after measles, a substantial proportion of immune memory cells had disappeared from the children’s blood, in what the scientists described as “immune amnesia”. This could even mean that children who become infected with measles may need to be revaccinated for previous diseases.

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        No.

        The problem isn’t people who have been vaccinated against measles, the problem is people who haven’t, can’t, or are otherwise immunocompromised.

        Those people would have all of their immunities reset. People who don’t get measels because they have the vaccination will be unaffected.

        Plus the current COVID variant is quite unlike the one in 2021, and we’ll all need to get vaccinated against the next surviving variant anyway. Coronaviruses suck in that way.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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          I… didn’t say the problem was people vaccinated against measles? I’m saying unvaccinated people will have their COVID immunity reset, regardless of natural immunity from previous infections. Basically the pandemic starts over for unvaccinated people.

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    MAGAs: “Everyone should get covid”

    Doctors in Huston setting up overflow field hospitals in parking lots: “For the love of fuck. Please stop.”

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    Its terrifying that the health secretary has no idea how serious measles is. Fatalities are pretty high, its not at all like the common cold.

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      I think they know. I think we are realising these people are eugenicists.

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        the irony is it’s their base that will suffer the most.

        I went and got my MMR booster, I doubt any of them will.

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    Is it really still news that USA has gone crazy?

    Sorry I asked the same on another story that was also crazy, but this one is even crazier! 🤡

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      It’s not crazy.

      I wish people would see that, this is years of bad policy coming to light.

      This isnt maliciousness or apathy. This is stupidity, while the south and midwest excel and continue this. The Republicans and those in power continue to dismantle education.

      Why. Because stupidity is a force greater than evil. You can’t argue with it, you can’t change it, you can’t reason with stupidity.

      A democracy is only as good as it’s continued excellence in education, learn from this Europe and be better.

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    I’m still waiting for him to actually tackle whats in our food since that was his whole shtick.

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    He should lead by example.

    Maybe the entire Trump closet cabinet should have a measle party to show how it’s done!

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    The best strategy for combatting Trump Derangement Syndrome is also for everybody to get it?

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    In 1962, the rate of deaths from measles was 0.2/100k among the population.

    Doesn’t sound like a l… Ohhh. It’s the full population in 1962, not out of the people who got measles.