I have a few daughters looking for science and engineering programs in the next few years. They’re all scared to attend schools in states hostile towards women. I get that. I’m looking for recommendations for schools in states positive towards women that have good STEM programs.

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    I assume you are refering to the US without explicite writing it. But most European countries should be fine - especially Nordic countries.

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    University of Michigan. Ann Arbor is a hardcore dem city and in a state with abortion rights protected af

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      I second Michigan! I live here, and the middle-state cities here are typically full of left-leaning young folks.

      The farther north you go, though, the political leanings get worse. Definitely recommend mid & lower Michigan, though.

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      Take a little time to read the whole question. They’re asking about cities/states where their daughters can feel safe & empowered, as well as the fact that there is a good university, that likely shouldn’t have a “frat bro” culture.

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        Aren’t women safe in all states?
        It’s a bit hard to fathom as a European, so I’d love some knowledge if you’d share

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          Not only have many states removed the right to an abortion, some of them are starting to restrict access to abortion care even when failure to provide that care could lead to grave injury such as the loss of organs or fertiity.

          While there is a federal law on the books that seems to require this care, a case challenging one such state law was ruled on by SCOTUS over procedural issues and it is not clear yet how the high court will decide on the substance of the issue.

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          Some states have pretty strict laws regarding abortions.

          I assume that this is what the person is referring to.

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              He wants to send his daughters to school in a place where they’re not only being valued for their wombs. Where they’re looked at as being equal contributors to their field of study. Where they’re provided opportunities the same as every other scholar there, and not assumed to be in college to find a husband.

              And, yes, there is a bit of “if they get into trouble will they have options?” At play I’m sure as well.

              Quit being obtuse.

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              Sorry, I should have elaborated.

              The laws are strict and would hold doctors liable in some places. There was an instance where a woman needed some pain killer but the doctor wouldn’t prescribe it because it could cause the termination of a fetus.

              When the lady told the doctor she wasn’t pregnant, he told her that she could become pregnant.

              I know that’s an extreme example, but it is an example.

              Another is that abortions in the case of rape might be illegal in some places and traveling out of state to a place where about is legal is also illegal.

              It’s also illegal in some places to knowing help a person get to a place where it’s legal to get an abortion.

              I’m not in expert in the subject, and the law varies by state so it gets confusing.

              My wife and I do not live in the US and don’t plan to return, so we have not followed it closely.

              Oh, I think there was also an issue of cops or the government possibly buying the data from period tracking apps, but I’m not sure about that.

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          Think of the US like 50 countries in a trenchcoat, cosplaying as a single country. It’s a crap shoot in a lot of ways.

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    I apologize if this isn’t the kind of comment that you’re looking for…but what’s wrong with the colleges local to you? Do you live in an unsafe area? It makes a hell of a lot more sense to go to a school with in state tuition rather than going across the country to a school with needlessly exorbitantly expensive out of state tuition.

    Maybe I was just lucky in the state I grew up in.

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    Buy the “Fiske Guide to Colleges”. It lists hundreds of colleges in the US. You can look up by major, location, price, etc.

    It also discusses things like social life, acceptance rate, and amenities.

    I have 3 kids that are in or went to college. This was indispensable.

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    Is this American ? You don’t say where. I’m not aware of any difference in the states here in Australia. But if so, maybe RMIT?

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    What do you mean by “states hostile towards women”? What’s going on there?

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        We are in Florida and the universities are fine, except for the loss of the New College (may RDS rot in hell for what he did to that school). But if they are interested in engineering they wouldn’t have needed the free school.

        If it’s cool here, it’s probably fine everywhere. Colleges are filled with kids from different places.

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          As long as it’s not a state university. The Florida government is doing all in its power to put their state universities to work as conservative ideology factories.

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            They are trying, yes. I have a kid at a state school in a science major and she isn’t getting any of that. The one in high school is getting ripped off but honestly they do call the kids by their chosen names and just ignore a lot of the culture war rules.

            I think it’s hitting the K-12 education department at the universities harder, and anyone coming here for an education degree is making a mistake already.

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      Many states in the US are on an anti-abortion warpath. I live in North Carolina, which recently outlawed abortion after 12 weeks. I want to move elsewhere – I feel unsafe and uncared for.

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        I have never been so grateful to live in the PNW. We’re a bit of a hike from NC, but you’d be plenty safe here!

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    I’m sorry you live in a country like that.

    Have you considered sending them abroad? I work at a university in Australia and it is actively encouraging female participants in STEM, to break any stereotypes traditional family may have taught them. I think all universities are.like that here.

    We are partnered with a university in England and my understanding is they are the same.

    You are also able to look at university rankings which cover diversity topics. We have just submitted our data for 2023, so expect new rankings to appear in a few months. Since the data is public, many websites use it for higher education rankings.

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    Universities with higher female student ratio are probably a safe bet, although fair warning your daughters will statistically have worse matches for a partner.

    Source; went to a school of higher women pop, scored a gem.

    Jokes aside though, simply aiming for the best school is a safe bet too.

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    Make sure to set out the financial implications of different states. E.g., the California unis might be good - but you’re also dealing with out of state tuition.

    And also look at the pipeline - I was interested in biology, but all of the people in the program were hyper competitive pre-medical students. And who wants to deal with that?

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    New Jersey has Rutgers, NJIT, and Stevens Institute of Technology. New Jersey in general is positive to women and all schools have programs in place to be inclusive to women in engineering.

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    BU is a good bet, sticker price is expensive but the financial aid is pretty decent if you can take advantage. I’d definitely recommend them picking a school somewhere they’d probably want to live after college, as getting employment in the same area you’re going to school is much easier.