• bdonvr@thelemmy.club
    166·
    20 days ago

    Her heart’s in the right place but there are an absolute fuck ton of statues of dudes where the bulge/dick is worn from touching.

    For example:

    “Youth” (uhhhhhhh), Prague Castle, Czech Republic

    “Adam and Eve”, Monaco

    Cristiano Ronaldo, Funchal, Portugal

    And more that aren’t as famous I’m sure. Any statue with noticable genital features is gonna get this treatment no question.

  • Th4tGuyII@fedia.io
    108·
    20 days ago

    Of all the traditions one could use to point out objectification of women, statues was not it. People really do just like getting frisky with statues, regardless of gender

  • atro_city@fedia.io
    73·
    20 days ago

    Feminists always think women are better then men, until they are provided with proof that they are just as shitty because (surprise surprise) women are just humans too.

    • acargitz@lemmy.ca
      78·
      20 days ago

      None of the feminists I’ve ever personally met do this. Are you sure you’re not just rageposting right wing propaganda?

      Asserting that “women are just humans too” is literally feminism.

      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        16·
        20 days ago

        Most of my friends in HS were feminists who did this shit more and more as we got older

        Most grew up eventually and learned to stop putting their foot in their mouths as often, like most of us do, but a couple never did and are probably out there being these memes rn

      • atro_city@fedia.io
        8·
        20 days ago

        I was so angry when I posted that, you can’t imagine! The phone I used at the time ended being thrown out of the window and killing a cat. Pure, unbridled, boiling rage.

        None of the feminists I’ve ever personally met do this

        The sample size to beat them all

    • Fedizen@lemmy.world
      58·
      20 days ago

      Curse those darn feminists /s

      Really though the problem here is social media where saying something provacative and obviously wrong will net you more interactions than being cautious and thorough.

      • atro_city@fedia.io
        21·
        20 days ago

        That’s true. The feminists that believe in this crap do not represent the majority of feminists, just the loud, online feminists.

    • Phineaz@feddit.org
      44·
      20 days ago

      Making a lot of assumptions there, buddy.

      Remember, only a Sith will deal in absolutes.

          • Crashumbc@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            20 days ago

            To play devil’s advocate. Context and usage matter.

            The phrase “xxxxx always” has become synonymous with “xxxxx almost always” in this context. Especially, in casual English used on the Internet. The “almost” is implied…

            (Disclaimer: this isn’t meant to defend the OP, who is most likely a sexist shit big :P )

    • my_hat_stinks@programming.dev
      42·
      20 days ago

      You’re thinking of misandrists. Feminism is about equality of the sexes. Other groups (eg misandrists and terfs) sometimes claim to be feminist as a cover. A feminist believes men and woman are equals, a misogynist believes women are inferior, and a misandrist believes men are inferior.

      • TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl
        8·
        19 days ago

        Feminism is about equality of the sexes.

        I have never seen this to be applicable. From people its always one extreme side or the other.

        • scbasteve7@lemm.ee
          18·
          19 days ago

          You’ve most certainly seen it to be applicable. The issue is, the most arrogant people are always the loudest. People who claim to be feminist, but are terfs or misandrist usually garner the most negative attention and people start to only believe that feminism only means that thing. Feminism isn’t very eye catching. People who are it don’t scream at the top of their lungs.

          Feminism is more widespread than you might believe too. Cause it’s really really simple. Women and men are equal, deserve equal rights and for the majority of examples, can perform the same tasks.

          • TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl
            2·
            18 days ago

            So you mean equality. Say equality then.

            Feminism is a crazy name crazy people invented to shift things to the opposite side, destructively.

            You say feminism, but just the fucking word excludes half the fucking population.

            • scbasteve7@lemm.ee
              3·
              15 days ago

              You can be upset about it, but humans are dumb. Language is dumb. Terms that people have came up with, the definition that has changed over time, and how it does not relate to things in the present is dumb. Nothing will ever be exactly how you or anybody else wants it to be. It’s a collective that you just have to accept as it is.

              That being said, feminism has old roots when we used to pump our wives full of lithium and give them lobotomies. Treating them as equals was not something that was even discussed. You could say you were an egalitarian, but then you would have to also admit you liked people of color, or LGBTQ people. And that was a step too far for some.

              Also its not excluding half the population. It’s INCLUDING them. Men are included by default. It’s a term that allows the conversation for how shitty women are typically treated to exist.

            • GiveMemes@jlai.lu
              1·
              14 days ago

              One side has all the power in this scenario. Men will always have innate physical capability that outstrips that of women. As such, it is impossible to consider search of equality between genders as anything other ‘feminism’, as men are the only ones with the implicit ability to subjugate the other. Women do not have this implicit ability over men. There is a reason that it’s called feminism which is that women are always the ones being subjugated.

              Besides that, feminism is good for men as well. By exploring concepts such as the all-encompassing gender matrix, what it is, and how it is embedded in and affecting society, it can be shown the damage that such concepts do not only to women, but to men as well. For example, why is it considered ‘girly’ to have strong emotions other than anger? This affects many men’s lives in negative ways. Now what if I told you that the “all-encompassing gender matrix” is just a term I used to make patriarchy more palatable to you.

              You can say that feminism inherently unincludes half the population, but only because that half already has and has had the vast majority of power in society since pretty much the advent of agriculture, but it could be argued even before then as well…

        • aim_at_me@lemmy.nzEnglish
          17·
          19 days ago

          Equality doesn’t mean equal treatmeant, but equal outcomes. Obvious black and white examples like men don’t need cervix screening.

          There are more nuanced things too, like homeless rates, suicide rates, career opportunities, sexual assault victims, education graduation rates, family court biases etc. All things that require nuanced attention between the sexes, and aren’t easy to get right.

          99% of feminists are just your every day person, wishing for a more equitable world. There’s fringe parties of every socially political movement. I’ve kind of always wished there was a slightly more balanced name, but the movement started from the suffragettes, so it makes sense from a historical stand point.

          • prime_number_314159@lemmy.world
            6·
            19 days ago

            Often “equality” is used to refer to legal and societal systems closer to equal treatment, and “equity” is used to refer to systems closer to equal outcomes.

            Of course, the terms as defined in the dictionary are very similar, while how close the ideas they represent are when applied depends substantially on what is being considered, when, and how.

        • Aaron@lemmy.nz
          11·
          19 days ago

          Hi, it’s me, a non extreme feminist! (We agree, except on the word never and always, so just read)

          Sometimes it looks like extremes because in order to have equality, or equity, you have to change existing systems that promote the inequality and inequity. This to some may look like favouring the minority (power not number), when in fact it could just be trying to undo some of the damage. For example, changing a system that promotes men over women would involve maybe extra research into women’s health, because studies almost always don’t take into account that women’s bodies are different. BMI was built for men, dosages for medication are typically figured out for men, etc. Same goes with other minorites, btw. This extra research may make a majority group member feel like the system is prioritising others to the detriment of their self, when in fact it’s just trying to establish an equilibrium, as that research (from the example) is already there for them.

          Now from people? Yes, you are right. Sometimes (you may say often or a hyperbolic always) adherents will be wrong about what feminism is. That’s a struggle that the idea has to contend with just like every other movement. But feminism itself isn’t about extremes of hate, though the systemic change to bring about feminist goals may feel extreme due to the scale of work to be done.

        • chuymatt@startrek.websiteEnglish
          2·
          19 days ago

          … have you met humans? Moderation is difficult. Capitalism and Communism both have difficulty not sucking due to humans. People always just take everything too far.

    • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
      38·
      20 days ago

      Feminists don’t think women are better than men. They also believe women are just humans too.

  • Shou@lemmy.world
    63·
    20 days ago

    The post’s statue looks cursed as fuck. The guy looks dead and violated. It’s worse than the shiny bull balls.

    • Maalus@lemmy.world
      35·
      20 days ago

      Yeah cause it’s a grave statue. People literally go to a cementery and do this shit. According to wiki it was “kiss lips fondle dick” instead of straddling / grinding, but I guess some people do crazy shit.

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
      44·
      20 days ago

      Just need another seat for the saddle. It’s also horrible that people do this to Victor’s grave.

      See, when someone identifies a problem, instead of everyone choosing to do worse, we can all do better.

      But it’s moot. This is just divisive rage bait from a bot farm. No one cares about either of these people, but it reinforces the “women are crazy feminists” rhetoric that makes it so easy to radicalize young men into incels.

    • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
      11·
      20 days ago

      Careful there friend, you’re awfully close to reinforcing a negative view towards women/people in general based entirely off of a conversation on the internet that is most likely fake anyways.

      Golly, you’d have to be a real stupid jackass to let that happen, huh? Just a completely brain dead, ignorant, son-of-a-bitch.

      Fortunately you’re smarter than that, right? Right?

      • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world
        24·
        19 days ago

        He, in absolutely no way, said anything negative towards women. He said something negative about a single solitary human.

        Please, for the love of all things holy, shut the fuck up.

        • AVincentInSpace@pawb.socialEnglish
          2·
          19 days ago

          the path to idiocracy has been chosen.

          I dunno man, seems kinda like saying something negative about the entirety of the human race to me

          • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world
            10·
            19 days ago

            Ok. That’s still not anything close to sexism. He’s just a little drama queen bitch desperate to stir up shit where there is none.

            He is a negative presence in society as a whole.

            • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
              1·
              19 days ago

              What are those words in my comment directly after the word “women”? I just can’t quite make them out. Can you read them?

              • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world
                1·
                18 days ago

                Yep, you went on to include other people but at the same time you tried to make this an issue of sexism which its not.

  • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world
    39·
    19 days ago

    People see men fondling a stature: “Hah! What a hilarious pervert.” People see a woman stradling a statue: “She must want children.”

    • crossdl@leminal.spaceEnglish
      23·
      19 days ago

      Men need to better communicate their domestic desires in sexual pantomime. Like, do a humping gesture but then do a baby rocking gesture then pretend you’re playing catch outside. “I’m trying to make a Little Leaguer here!”