• _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    21·
    3 hours ago

    The rest of the Fediverse should put together a GoFundMe to buy the domain, and stick up a page with links to donate drones to Ukrainian soldiers, and care packages to families of Uyghur muslims detained in concentration camps in China.

  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org
    11·
    3 hours ago

    Just add the following line to your host file and add an override to your DNS:

    37.187.73.130 hexbear.net

    Problem solved, this is how we did it in 1985.

  • Carl@lemm.eeEnglish
    31·
    4 hours ago

    This almost certainly won’t kill the Hexbear community, and frankly I don’t think there’s any way they will choose to pony up the auction money. This community has moved from reddit to discord to the fediverse and they’ll probably just be on their backup/original domain chapo.chat for a month or two before switching over to whatever the admins decide to switch to, and then it will be business as usual under a new name.

    Still there’s a lesson here about setting up a durable online community - don’t let someone control the domain registration with their personal account, you’re just asking for something like this to happen. If they don’t have one already the admins should set up some kind of organization that can “own” the new domain, donations, etc so that this can’t happen again.

        • Whateley@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          2 hours ago

          Hexbear isn’t worth the dog shit I scraped off my shoe this morning.

        • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
          5·
          2 hours ago

          The domain name isn’t worth anything, they’ve changed domain names before, they’ll do it again.

          It will be funny that someone paid 500 dollars to make a communist domain redirect to /r/neoliberal or the wikipedia article on economics or the Black Book of Communism or something. Maybe declare Juan Guaidó the interim president of hexbear and redirect to his twitter.

    • Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml
      8·
      3 hours ago

      spending hundreds of dollars on a domain to own the commies, that’s so epic chungus, take my updoot good sir

    • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
      24·
      4 hours ago

      Rent free.

      If you go to their megathread on the topic you’ll see that not only are they not bidding, they’re telling people not to bid on their behalf and go to their https://chapo.chat/c/mutual_aid comm and give the money to someone who needs it. So if you have 300+ bucks to set on fire please consider helping someone with their rent or groceries. Or on the kid from Gaza trying to raise money for a prosthetic leg. You’ll feel better than spending it on spite.

      • Universal Monk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        3 hours ago

        Fair point! I have just spent all day arguing against people trying to get me banned from the fediverse. So I guess I left the blinders on.

        In this very sub, there was a post yesterday: “TrumpsTruth, Conservatism, TheNewDonald, what’s happening on this instance? Is this a thing?”

        And it’s around 60 comments of people telling me how much they hate me, and calling out admins to ban me! So my joke was mostly to them. And a few months before that a thread, “TrumpsTruth, Conservatism, TheNewDonald, what’s happening on this instance? Is this a thing?”

        I spend so much time being yelled at that I forget that I’m actually not that well-known. It come because from comments of, “Everyone hates you!” and “Your name is everywhere.”

        Good to know that it’s not everywhere. Maybe then they can shut up about how I have ruined the Fediverse and should be banned…

        Thanks for calling me out. Edited.

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
    17·
    6 hours ago

    Sad but kinda hilarious. Lemmy.ca appears to have a better succession plan in place through the nonprofit organization…

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      5·
      1 hour ago

      Thanks! Unlike a lot of Lemmy users, I have a soft spot for hexbears. I think they had a genuinely traumatic experience when they federated and their very personal instance was inundated with people who didn’t think and talk as they did. I’m glad they’re ok.

    • vger@lemmy.mlEnglish
      25·
      6 hours ago

      They didn’t really move. That hostname has been a synonym for hexbear.net all along. It may have been the instance’s original hostname.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
    25·
    7 hours ago

    They’ll probably stay in chapo.chat, and instance owners will update their blocked lists. A few users lost because they can’t be arsed to re-register, instead using .ml. But, past that, not much is going to change, I think.

    I’m mildly curious on what’s going to happen with their older domain - or, what the winning bidder will make out of it. (Document bad online behaviour? Make it about NATO to rub salt on their wounds? What else?)

    • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
      16·
      7 hours ago

      Except they already said that the same issue will occur with the backup name as well. Unless the additional time allows the original owner to finally reregister it this time, as they (reportedly) claimed to be ready to do for the main one as well. I think they don’t trust them anymore:-).

      So everyone might move, then have to move again a second time. Not joking btw!:-)

      Is it weird that I feel bad for them? Whoever is to blame, a lot of the users are innocent of this. And are also trolls, true, but even so… It would be nice if some people would learn from this that online trolling is one thing, but eventually it’s even better to wake up and live in the real world. I want that for them.

      • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
        5·
        5 hours ago

        I think that the additional time will be enough to let them contact the original owner. But dunno, there might be some drama involved, IIRC not even the original devs want much to do with HB.

        And even if they move twice, the userbase seems close-knit enough to follow without too many losses.

        Is it weird that I feel bad for them?

        I don’t think it is. The main problem there seems to be users going rogue outside their home instance; I remember HB had some rule like “respect rules of the other instances you interact with”, but it was toilet paper. However plenty of the other users are completely OK.

        Another issue is that there is some red scare against them. And even if they use it to shield themselves from actual criticism in a really dumb way, the red scare is still there.

        • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
          7·
          3 hours ago

          They openly idolize Stalin. That’s not from a couple rogue users

          • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
            9·
            3 hours ago

            The guy who spent his youth robbing banks to fund a revolution, succeeded, went on to beat the nazis, and helped lay the foundation for the greatest increase in standards of living in the modern age outside of China?

            Even if you accept legitimate criticisms about the guy, such as interning/relocating populations in the wake of WWII, various loses the CPC took due to following his mandates, his failure to support Korea, etc, and understand him as a part of a greater machine accomplishing these things rather than the idealist “great man theory” nonsense that encourages hero worship in the first place, it’s hard not to idealize revolutionary heros like him and Fidel.

        • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
          4·
          3 hours ago

          They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it. Then disappeared (yet again, after repeatedly having done so in the past so many times before). It’s even possible that they did this out of some kind of spite? But perhaps not, maybe it’s merely irresponsibility, and even that due to ADHD or some such, who knows (I did not read through every comment, just enough to know this much).

          It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I’m leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it’s 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now) there are posts (not merely moderator reports, which don’t federate particularly with their older software) where they are made aware, and the admins chose to ignore the situation each time rather than ban the person involved. They actively shielded them from consequences, rather than merely allowing them to do whatever. Thus necessitating others to take steps of their own to deal with matters.

          Seeing how “responsible” they are, nobody believes the red scare issue - especially people who are ACTUALLY leftist as opposed to whatever fucked up thing tankies are to begin with, and then like that squared (three times over) and possibly reversed and shifted further into the imaginary dimension, to describe whatever the heck Hexbear has going on specifically. Regardless of political views. imho at least, ofc:-).

          • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
            4·
            3 hours ago

            They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it.

            That’s important info.

            Perhaps the original owner is so disengaged already that they aren’t giving too much of a fuck about the fate of the instance. I can’t exactly blame them.

            It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I’m leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it’s 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now)

            Stop making me remember a certain movie! Okay, the movie is great, so keep reminding me of it. (Moulin Rouge. Their version of Roxanne is way better than The Police’s original. Kind of like Concrete Blonde’s Everybody Knows vs. Cohen’s)

            But I digress. Yes, the users were going rouge :-P under the implicit approval of the instance admins; that’s why I say that the rule there against misbehaving in other instances was “toilet paper”, it’s just there to get shit.

            Seeing how “responsible” they are, nobody believes the red scare issue

            Yup. It’s like the boy who cried wolf, isn’t it?

            Anyway, I hope that the good ones still stick around. And even the bad ones should get a place… just away from my sight. (Perhaps in truth social, showing their “critical support” to Trump. Hehe.)

      • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
        15·
        6 hours ago

        It was the original website people from /r/chapotraphouse migrated to when it was banned on reddit but then everyone decided they didn’t even really like the podcast and made a new thing

        • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
          5·
          5 hours ago

          I get that but do we need to defederate from them or not? It seems like they don’t have federation enabled or something.

            • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
              6·
              4 hours ago

              sigh

              That’s a funny way of saying you have no clue what chapo.chat actually is. Hexbear is the epitome of the blind leading the blind.

              I could never have imagined that certain leftists were equally as stupid and ignorantly abrasive as MAGA trumpers, but you clowns have proven it beyond all doubt. It’s so profoundly concerning and disappointing 😑

              Why can’t you just act like a mature adult and answer a simple question? Why must you incessantly seek to spread divisiveness and misery?

              • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
                7·
                4 hours ago

                No it’s a funny way of saying your instance sucks

                Who is spreading divisiveness? You are explicitly asking if you need to take additional steps to divide yourself from elsewhere.

                Not to distract attention from your frankly obsessive and weird hate rant

                • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
                  6·
                  3 hours ago

                  I’m asking if chapo.chat is part of Lemmy or not. Do they federate with other servers, or is it isolated? Just answer the damn question.

                  I explicitly federated sh.itjust.works with hexbear, at the request of your fearless leader u/CARCOSA, and I took a whole bunch of shit from all sides for that decision. Then you defederated us within 24 hours, because you couldn’t handle losing arguments with our users. I have always tried to be reasonable with you people but it counts for nothing, because you just attack and abuse everyone you come into contact with, and you actively refuse to confront reality.

  • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
    31·
    8 hours ago

    Wow, that’s a fuck up of monumental proportions. Still 9 days left on the auction, I wonder how much it’ll ultimately sell for.

    This could be really annoying when they all make accounts on lemmy.ml. Funnily enough, having them sequestered over there and defederated from the rest of us has been working pretty well lately. Moderators and admins better start dusting off the banhammers.

    • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
      12·
      8 hours ago

      It would probably be easier for them to keep chapo.chat. Should they massively move to lemmy.ml and recreate their communities there, I guess a lot of instances would start to defederate lemmy.ml

      • jqubed@lemmy.world
        15·
        7 hours ago

        Reading through the admin’s post it looks like they have the exact same issue with chapo.chat being registered by an admin who is no longer active and not responding to the rest of the admin team. They explicitly say to view the move to chapo.chat as temporary unless they can get control of that domain.

        Sounds like a good lesson for them and many other fediverse instances to form some sort of non-profit/club/organization legal entity and better ensure that these critical items are open to multiple individuals to reduce the bus factor. I would assume having a legal entity would make it easier to get donations to cover costs too.

        • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
          8·
          7 hours ago

          Seems to be kind of a backup domain/instance the hexbear admins have? Not sure to be honest, hopefully someone else can chime in

          • vger@lemmy.mlEnglish
            14·
            6 hours ago

            It’s the same instance. That’s just a synonymous hostname that points to the same IP address.

          • bishbosh@lemm.eeEnglish
            7·
            7 hours ago

            Right after the r/chapotraphouse sub got banned, they moved to chapo.chat, but the community wasn’t really that tied with the chapo trap house podcast anymore, so they moved to hexbear.net.