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    She’s already said she will continue arming Israel, which is a felony at this point.

    Proudly proclaiming she will commit a felony day one is a good indication of how I expect the rest of her term to go.

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      My ballot had 3 options: Kamala Harris, Donald Trump and Robert Kennedy, Jr.

      Write-ins are not allowed in Indiana.

      Who should I have voted for?

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      What felony exactly? If that’s a felony, that would be great, because then we can finally hold gun manufacturers and owners who sell their firearms fully responsible.

      She’s not even president.

      Hey, never mind the fact though that Walz is feeding school kids, they’re getting tampons in bathrooms and plan to finally tax the rich more, help the poor and increase minimum wage

      Im sure people who are struggling to get dinner on their table are more concerned about foreign policy

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          The Leahy Laws or Leahy amendments are U.S. human rights laws that prohibit the U.S. Department of State and Department of Defense.

          So it’s actually applied against those 2 offices, not the executive branch.

          And again, she wants a ceasefire…

          You have no way of knowing what’s happening in the background, only what you read about in the news

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            It doesn’t matter what she says she wants. If she authorizes more weapons sales, she’s in violation of both international and domestic law.

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    Her record is not spotless tbh.

    Anyway, easy solution to the problem: ban Trump and the GOP. Bam, fascism is no more.

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    Is there a person alive on this planet now with a so called “spotless” record? OP, are you of all the major decisions Kamala has made and you agree with them?

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      hmm. why am I voting for Harris. let me count the ways:

      • she’s got30 felonies less that what’s his face.

      • no bribery

      • no fraud

      • no racketeering,

      • no sexual assault

      • isnt Putin’s bitch

      • she trusts science

      • doesn’t mock disabled reporters on live TV

      • isn’t planning on appointing her unqualified family to the government

      • she isn’t running only to stay out of prison

      • she isn’t married to a Slovenian escort

      • she isn’t copying Hitler

      • her running mate never said she’s hitler

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    Apparently putting a huge number of people in jail for minor possession of a drug that is only illegal because of racist 70s politics is spotless, and doing so to support capitalizing the prison system, is spotless. I call it dehumanizing and unconstitutional, but I just care about empirical data that apparently is completely unimportant in tribalist capitalist worshiping countries like the USA.

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      I don’t count “spotless prosecutorial record” as a win, but given the two viable choices I’ll take it over “shockingly successful fascist demagogue” every time, and twice on Sundays.

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        I holding my finger over the button as long as possible in the hope that the button that the “spotless prosecutorial record” will suddenly add the “stop abetting a genocide” portion we’ve been asking for since before they changed out the previous button, but I guess I’ll be going for the option that isn’t currently telling me how my existence is threatening to them and hope that they’ll follow through on valuing human life this time around.

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      Agree on your points, I honestly fucking hate cops and by extension prosecutors that enable and collude with them. However the only other option is worse than a pig.

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    …and then, all of a sudden, Democrats started loving overzealous DAs who would do anything to put black men in prison.

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    A perfectly good meme but I would say it might still presume a little too much good faith.

    They’re not undecided. They want to vote for Trump and are desperately hoping for a socially acceptable reason to do so.

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    I’m sure pretending the blue candidate isn’t complicit in genocide is a great strategy to convincing more voters.

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      Unfortunately we are in the same position with both candidates. You can’t be President of the US and have clean hands

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          I guess when both candidates have “Genocide Participant” credits it no longer matters to compared that specific item.

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              Disarming Israel is not on the ballot. I wish it were, but we are where we are. Comparing the candidates on issues where they do differ significantly makes the decision pretty easy.

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                  That’s.

                  That’s not how it works.

                  Please don’t make such terrible arguments. I care about your cause and don’t want to see it badly represented.

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              What for? There are absolutely no real options to avoid the Israel/Palestine conflict. So as an adult who understands that there are some things I can and cannot influence I move on to those I can influence.

              One candidate is leagues above the other.

              Anyone who says “well your candidate will be bad for Israel/Palestine” is being disingenuous because both will suck. Thats bait and a distraction.

              Going 3rd party or abstaining from voting are both stupid approaches.

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    You not only need to vote for the candidate of their choice, you also need to match whatever they pick. Yey! Democracy!

    Enter to win!

    Prices included: " new president!"

    Rules:

    -Pick whoever you want

    -If the electoral college picks the person you picked, then congratulations! You picked the winner 🏆🏆🏆🏆!

    -if the electoral college picks someone else, then congratulations! You got a different president than the one you picked because your vote is worthless!

    Yey! Democracy!

    But do go vote, this is just a sarcastic comment about the stupid way we pick…the electoral college picks presidents for us like kings. The rest of the ballot is full of things that you do actually vote for, like local representatives, education leaders, district judges etc. Only the presidential election is not actually your thing. The rest of it is probably more important anyway so who cares if the electoral college picks Mexico’s president to be our president. They could pick Kim Jung Un, but our president is usually a lame duck anyway the entire time due to the Republican party cock blocking their every move…like your student loans! Remember those? The fucking republican party block all attempts so far. But again, don’t worry about it, it’s not our thing. Let’s let the electoral college to worry about it.

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          It’s not a matter of opinion. You’re misrepresenting how the EC works.

          It isn’t a good system, but it’s also nothing like you characterized it.

          Slates of electors are chosen to represent parties by the parties themselves, often in party conventions or primaries, and typically from a pool of people who are incredibly loyal to the party. That is even more true of smaller parties, as they tend to be more invested in their particular beliefs than the major parties.

          Faithless electors are, so far, practically a non-factor in modern elections in the US. There are mechanisms in place in most cases that either invalidate their vote or outright remove and replace them. I can only cite one time in history that there was a significant impact, when the Virginia electors withheld their votes for Van Buren’s VP Richard M. Johnson. He had to be elected by the Senate due to the 23 withheld votes keeping him from a majority in the EC. That was in 1836.

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            Then why have electors at all? Why not just get together and state “we have 10 electoral votes for Kamela”. There’s no actual need to have a person who’s job is to literally walk to a place fill a bubble and put it in the envelope box.

            I don’t care how the system works to vote for president. All I know is that it’s not my vote and I am a citizen. Can you say that’s a misrepresented statement? “It’s not my vote that elects a president” that is 100% true.

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              I’ll point back to you saying this:

              the electoral college picks presidents for us like kings

              Which is, for lack of a better way to put it, simply bullshit.

              I’ll also point to you saying this:

              I don’t care how the system works to vote for president.

              Which sounds like willful ignorance about the election process. I don’t think that’s a position to be proud of.

              You ask why we even have electors at all, as if that’s some sort of big “gotcha” monent. I already clearly stated that I don’t think it’s a particularly good system, especially coupled with FPTP and winner-talke-all. What it is, though, is the system we have, so understanding it is pretty vital.

              Technically speaking, no, you do not directly vote for a presidential candidate in the general election. In practice, your vote almost certainly will be represented by the electors you vote for if your chosen candidate wins your state or if you live in Nebraska or Maine. Certainly, the electors could be removed entirely from the process while electoral votes remain. That would remove one unnecessary part of the equation, but would it solve anything?

              Here’s the real fun: winner-take-all. It’s more damaging than indirect election. Let’s pretend you live in one of three districts that vote for (electors pledged to) Alice, one in a landslide and two hotly contested. But the other two districts in your state elect (electors pledged to) Bob. The statewide popular vote is close but slightly in favor of Bob. Congrats, all seven of your states EC votes go to Bob even though your district overwhelmingly supported Alice, and she won 60% of the districts. Who needs faithless electors when your vote can truly not count for anything? This is how WTA is worse for democracy than electors.

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      The rest of the ballot is full of things […] like local representatives, education leaders, district judges etc.

      Maybe OT, but I’ve been watching a lot of voting advice on twitter, reddit, etc this year, and whenever someone mentions how important it is to get educated about your local options on the ballot, they get a flood of comments accusing them of encouraging people to abstain from voting or to vote 3rd party. It appears to be one limb of an aggressive anti-vote apathy or disinfo campaign.

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        Not sure if it’s OT, but we definitely forget that the ballot affects you more personally within the other non presidential elections. Like the president, ultimately is just a guy. He’s not gonna come here locally and fix my potholes. It’s the local guy who does that shit. That’s the election we should be really keen on. And then sure, let’s build some more raptors and finish North Korea indirectly somehow before they do something stupid.

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      a bit ridiculous to mention here since the alternative wants to unleash the fucking military on US citizens.

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        Biden made it legal for military personnel to use lethal force on American civilians… Maybe Harris doesn’t care. But Biden and Trump seem to both like the idea of killing citizens with the military.

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          No, he really didn’t. First of all, that would have to be done by congress. Second of all, the changes made were to rules within the military itself, and they did the exact opposite. Further restrictions were put in on how the military command structure would authorize engagements related to exceptions that have always been part of the Posse Comitatus Act. You were either fooled by the right wing spin machine, or you are part of it.

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            You’re right I’ve gone and checked. It wasn’t a new thing just clarifying that to use lethal force would require the secretary of defenses approval.

            Little clarifying language changes are common it’s true.

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              The worst part is the old nugget that every right wing accusation is really a confession. They have every intention of abusing military power against US citizens and want to muddy the waters first to make it another “both sides” thing.

              Thanks for checking into it instead of doubling down. We need that today more than we ever have.

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                It’s always a confession from basically anyone in upper level gov. In a funny way I wish it was actually true that it was always a confession though. Imagine if the Republicans were the communist socialist lefties they accuse the Dems of being constantly. That’d be fun.

                But yes I’m down to improve my understanding of facts if they are lacking. Hardly need another reason to hate the military. May as well be accurate about it.

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                  I believe the spectrum from capitalism to communism (as both are generally understood) is an illusion and a distraction. In capitalism, capital eventually captures and controls government. In communism, (as it has materialized in the past) the government captures and controls capital. Capital and government become one in either case.

                  Relating this to Republicans, they are absolutely in favor of the union of corporate and government power. The aspects of communism that they rant about are exactly what they want to bring about. That’s how fascism and totalitarianism work.

                  A true social revolution must empower the people at the “bottom” to make decisions about their own lives as much as possible. The only justifiable excuse to take liberty away from individuals is to protect the liberty of others.

                  The society the right dreams of is exactly what we have seen under communist regimes, just with different branding. It’s just authoritarianism.

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          sure bb they will both do the same thing, and putin will announce his gay love interest

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    My Mexican immigrant coworker believes that if Kamala gets elected that immigrants will be deported but also immigrants are getting too much free money and food stamps and things like that. He really has bought into some kind of weird belief that Donald Trump is a better candidate. He can’t vote because he’s not a citizen. I think he’s just pissed off because he works two jobs and sees people who get free stuff and don’t come here legally as lazy.

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      Trying to combine immigrants in your first sentence is so disingenuous. Here’s what makes it clear:

      Legal Immigrants are different than illegal immigrants. Of course your coworker is pissed off that he’s come here legally and is not getting rewarded for it. Whether the ones who come illegally are lazy or not doesn’t make a difference. They shouldn’t be given anything we currently give them. We have veterans dying in the streets getting nothing. Everyone should be mad about it.

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        Out of the only two options on the ballot that have any chance of winning, which side shits on the veterans dying in the streets and which side tries to help them?

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        What you’re saying is not precisely true. To register for food stamps, well, you need to be registered. Likewise for other forms of welfare.

        Illegal immigrants are not coming to this country and living off of welfare. That is not happening.

        But even if it was, are you seriously going to tell me that the solution to that is to kick those immigrants out? To round them up in camps? That’s not going to help homeless veterans.

        People like you will either believe in stupid arguments or talk in bad faith, and then not actually support welfare or UBI at all.

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          Illegal immigrants aren’t getting money and services through our usual welfare program, but nice try implying that’s what we’re claiming.

          And yes, kick out the ones here illegally. Not sure where you’re getting camps from, just move them out. Then we need to redirect sources to Americans that need it and we need to make sure those are being spent properly and not disappearing into bureaucratic pockets.

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            You do realize how just morally corrupt and insane that logic is right? We spend trillions as a country, you’re upset that immigrants might get something when our veterans program is still lacking. You are fighting over crumbs and upset at other crumb eaters instead of the elite being the ones only giving out crumbs. There are valid arguments and suggested tactics to help BOOST the economy with programs that can help veterans, immigrants, and includes social safety nets for all people. The distraction that “They’re Stealing Your Crumbs!tm” helps stop any progress and keeps the boogeyman so voters can be scared into submission.

            We need immigrants to help a flailing economy thanks to the baby boomer population (immigrants help us economically!, it’s a statistical fact!). Immigrants also have lower crime rates than typical groups of people born here. Housing the homeless is cheaper than arresting them, ER visits (because no preemptive healthcare) are most expensive, ETC ETC. All the fear mongering is just lies, don’t believe the hatred and look into it yourself so you’re not spreading misinformation.

            https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate

            https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/how-does-immigration-affect-us-economy

            https://www.globalgiving.org/learn/how-much-would-it-cost-to-end-homelessness-in-america/

            I just love how the political discourse went from “should we have healthcare for all? (circa 2016)”, to “they took our jobs! (circa southpark 2004)”.

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            It takes resources to “round them up and kick them out.” Resources that could instead be spent on the Americans that need it.

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      The electoral college picks the president. Not you. You’re a “migrant” labeled “citizen”. You can influence the election if you happen to walk by an actual elector and get a chance to talk to him… Tell him about your student loans, your fear of putin, the homeless, you two jobs just to pay the mortgage, etc. they’ll understand and vote the way you would vote if you were an actual elector… don’t you worry migrant!

      Yey! Democracy!

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      Is it a spot if you grab someone who isn’t your favorite wife by the pussy?

      How do you grab your own wife by the pussy? Like do you just go for it over whatever she’s wearing? Do you pull down her panties to actually grab her by the vagina?

      What’s the proper vagina grab? Like do you apply pressure upwards and pull …nah that would slip easy! It’s a vagina, it’s got slime on it if you get near it. Nah. I think the best and most proper way is to insert one or more fingers into the vagina so you can pull.

      I hope our president can tell us how to properly and legally grab women by the vagina. Maybe it will be a national sport one day… imagine a team of say 6 couples on each side, the get arranged like in football, except that they must be copulating. The goal is to walk around the field…full of couches and rugs and Lego bricks from the kids … And grab one of the opposite team’s women by the pussy. Each couple who’s woman gets grabbed by the pussy is automatically disqualified and has to exit the field. Extra points during sudden death if you can doggy or spit roast the guy.

      Thank God Trump figured out how to grab them all by the pussy for us all. Right? 👍

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        Harris is far worse than Trump. Her record includes extending peoples prison sentences for cheap labor to fight fires. Jailing parents of truant kids. Laughing about smoking weed herself after imprisoning people for it. Most of the people she kept behind bars are black.

        You know what trump did? He gave permanent funding to HBC colleges. His First Step act reversed Biden’s Crime Bill that targeted black people. He also created a way for criminals to rejoin society after they finish their sentencing.

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          Trump separated children from parents and locked them in cages. The majority of these children still haven’t been returned to their parents.
          He tried to illegally ban entire races from entering the country.
          He elected judges to the supreme Court that over turned Roe v Wade, which is resulting in the death of pregnant women who can no longer receive life saving medical care.
          He made Secret Service Agents rent rooms at hotels he owns, funneling money from the government into his own businesses.

          Trump refused the peaceful transfer of power
          Lied that the election was stolen (and has never presented any evidence and his lawyers admitted in court that they have no evidence)
          Encouraged an attempted insurrection
          Idolizes dictators
          Stated he wants to be a dictator Day 1
          Wants people who oppose him to get shot…

          Oh, but some colleges got some funding so I guess that balances it out.

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            I mean, these are proven things he did. You can laugh but it doesn’t change the fact that these things happened

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              350,831 Covid deaths in 2020 alone, 40% preventable with a competent response. Nominating 3 SCOTUS judges that ensured Roe being repealed and stripping away women’s bodily automomy in 21 states. But sure, Harris is an evil c***, right? I could go on with how horrible he was but of course, you won’t care. Cruelty is the point.

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          If someone from .ml is saying Harris is worse than Trump, well then it must be true! Everyone knows to listen to the opinion of people who have been banned from communities for being fascist…

          Thank you for giving us more reason to vote for Harris!

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            I did vote for him, and you can call me fascist all you want, that word no longer has power behind it. I’m not fascist, trump isn’t fascist, most of his voters aren’t fascist.

            Fascists exist, they’re just not in any way the majority.

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        I’ll go as far to say she’s a huge piece of shit that smells less bad than trump but you’re still working with a turd