Statistically, there were likely 4 more murders in NYC since this one, I’m sure they’re investigating those just as thoroughly.
DUN-DUN!
Cue BD Wong talking about how the assassin was abused as a child by UHC
Or JK Simmons nonchalantly implying that maybe the CEO deserved it, and that makes the killer the most sane of anyone.
He did deserve it though. We also shouldn’t stop at Health Insurance CEOs, we need to make oil company execs fear for their lives for the damage they are doing to the environment.
To put that in perspective:
All numbers from 2023
NYC:
- 8.25 million inhabitants
- 386 murders
Austria:
- 9.13 million inhabitants
- 72 murders
Big cities have more murders than rural countries, more news at 11.
If he had killed any of us, the cops wouldn’t give a shit.
Remember that.
He wouldn’t have killed any of us.
Remember that.
I dunno, I’m the CEO of my own single-member LLC.
How many deaths is your company responsible for?
Just my own, every day.
All the brain cells from doing bureaucracy
Then you’re fine and have nothing to fear from The Adjuster.
But any CEO of any health insurance corporation absolutely would.
And if you were in a bad situation, cops on the scene have a higher chance of killing you.
These insurance providers kills thousands and the cops don’t give a shit.
If I’d done what that CEO fuck probably did to this guys family, he would a been justified in killing me too
I hope you haven’t…
Nah, they just finger their cat.
Murder clearance rate in Manhattan is over 80%.
Too bad they can’t just pick up a rando with mental health issues and lie, torture, and starve him in a room until he “confesses”
Those goalposts heavy?
Yeremi Colino was murdered the same day. No massive manhunt, no big cash reward for his murderers’ capture. AFAIK, they’re still at large.
But I guess that’s the difference in how our society values the lives of a migrant teenager and a CEO of a massive insurance conglomerate.
I love how they’re using the full force of their resources to catch this guy, but a random murder they put two detectives on for a few months, shrug and close the case.
shrug and close the case
And every politician, every cop on the street Protects the interests of the pedophilic corporate elite
Thaaaat is how the world works! 🎶
This needs more attention. We should all be collectively outraged at the police response. They should saddle 2 detectives with the case and direct all these resources back to where they were before. The rest of the CEOs can sleep with one eye open.
In addition to looking for the killer, police are still searching for a motive as to why someone would kill Thompson.
This is definitely where they need to focus their resources first.
Honestly? Yea probably. It’d be fucking amazing if the police ended up releasing a report on just how much UHC fucked this guy or his family/friends over.
It’s clear they haven’t even given it a first look. The guy put the title of the book on the bullet casings
Too bad they can’t read!
Somebody looking to hide their motive would that too tho
Yes. It is extremely bizarre how something like this could happen.
Especially since the president elect already said he could do the same thing one block over, four years ago
I mean for all we know it has nothing to do with healthcare premiums. The guy could be a fellow board member who got boned out of a bonus or something.
The message on the bullets would suggest otherwise. To me that seems like an attempt to preempt speculation that the motive had nothing to do with insurance company fuckery.
Could just as easily be a red herring.
I mean, most likely it isn’t internal insurance drama, but it could be.
Besides, how amazing would it be for the cops to say “yeah so we researched this and it was definitely a retaliation execution for all the lives he murdered in his quest for money and power”. Talk about putting the billionaire class on alert haha
Tbf, that’s the largest pool of potential suspects, so it makes sense that they’d want to call police attention in that direction regardless of the actual motive. I do think it’s genuine, but it’s a smart move either way
I’m convinced. This is a South Park episode.
Is the NYPD not aware of the internet?
They are wasting a lot of time and money and energy on this investigation
They obviously value some lives more than others. No surprise, of course.
What lives would those be??
It’s a mystery!
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They’re likely just going to execute him when they find him so as to not allow that. Say he was brandishing or something.
It would only make sense for him to turn himself in while accompanied by his lawyer after releasing a statement that he will be doing so. Even so, eventually he’s going to be alone in police custody and I’d be surprised if he survives that for long.
If he shows up at my door, I’ll gladly house him. You should too.
Aiding and abetting murder can result in the same charges and penalties as the principal offender, which could include life in prison without parole
Your statement could be true, but the way you’re presenting it sounds like you’re just letting the oppressors win.
Getting locked up by an oppressor. Whoever heard of that?
Got a loaded shotgun waiting for any pig that thinks I’m going in quietly for doing the right thing
We all should
Big talker aren’t ya
If you’re dumb enough to go into jail when fascism is in charge that’s on you
Its called having a plan and knowing what your government thinks of people like you
That’s the thing about big talkers. They always talk big.
This isn’t true. Harboring someone from the police after they commit a crime makes you an accessory, not a primary.
Edit: to be more concrete and actually cite what I’m saying (my bad), we’ll use federal law since they clearly crossed state lines multiple times in the stages of committing this
act of heroismcrime:An accessory after-the-fact is someone who, knowing a crime was committed, receives, relieves, comforts, or assists the offender or in any manner aids them to escape arrest or punishment. See: U.S. v. Triplett, 92 F.2d 1174 (5th Cir. 1991). The aid provided by the defendant to the principal must be given after the principal completes the crime.
The basic elements the government must demonstrate to prove that a defendant was an accessory after-the-fact are: (1) the commission of an underlying crime against the United States; (2) the defendant’s knowledge of that offense; and (3) assistance by the defendant in order to prevent the apprehension, trial, or punishment of the offender. See: U.S. v. White, 135 S. Ct. 1573, 191 L. Ed. 2d 656 (2015); Ellis v. U.S., 806 F. Supp. 2d 538 (E.D. N.Y. 2011).
If enough people are accessories, no one is an accessory
I’m sorry I don’t watch the news, so I have no idea who this person on my couch is, he just looked like a good guy who does good things.
Don’t let them find your Lemmy account.
What is this “Lemmy” you speak of? Never heard of it…
I do not care
username checks out
No it doesn’t. If it did, the comment would say “Shark does not care”.
Wink.
I will take a jury trial ;)
Good luck
it hurts you that people support this guy hehe
good
Doesn’t hurt me. I don’t support murderers
your tone says other wise, my neo lib acolyte
Then you must be in quite a conundrum with who was killed here; if you want justice for the CEO by finding the killer of the CEO, you’re supporting a murderer; if you support the killer of the CEO, you’re supporting a killer.
Tough moral quandary.
Yes, all the death can be laid at the feet of one guy. What a simplistic place to live.
sudo !!
Me to the judge: He said he was my cousin Paddy!
Me to the shooter: You lied to me! *wangs him with a skillet*
problem solved.
And you don’t have to ask him why he is running. It’s perfectly legal to help a stranger in need without asking them if they broke the law. In fact, it used to be seen as the most Christian thing to do by not judging.
I said exactly this to my friend on the phone today.
When people wonder why everyone calls police class traitors remember this
A bit unnuanced though
Best of luck with getting cooperation from citizens at large.
All 337,522,185 of us didn’t see nothin’.
…but the cameras and AI did :(
I’m not too fussed about the AI, to be honest. It’ll just declare that it has 14,986 suspects who “definitely” did it, most of whom will just coincidentally turn out to be black.
The odds of them being able to definitively tie a face to a name in a single stroke are pretty remote. The investigation strategy will probably revolve around tracking down where he went and how he got there. If he rode a bus, they will investigate who was on that bus. Same if he took a plane. Or if he hired an Uber, or whatever. Whose credit cards were used to purchase tickets, whose cell phones were tracked in those locations at those times, etc. Wasn’t he on a rental bike? They will try to track payment methods for those rental bikes. Etc.
Even with all their manpower and spy technologies and cell phone spoofing towers and dogs and any amount of shiny badges, the cops can’t clear a solve rate for murders in the US that’s any better than 50%. So there’s a coin-toss chance this guy didn’t go out of his way to do anything right and still walks away.
According to an ABC article, he apparently used cash for everything. Clever dude if true
I didn’t know you could use cash for rental bikes.
All the ones in Chicago need the app in order to rent them.
Could you do it with a burner phone and load the app from a Visa gift card? Rent and place the city bike around the corner, do the deed, drop the phone (whether on accident or on purpose), take off on the bike.
Maybe pay a random stranger in cash to rent a bike for you
I really hope this doesn’t lead business to not accept cash.
I should use more cash on a daily basis to discourage this…
Businesses in NYC love cash. Shops everywhere have discounts for paying in cash. There are ATMs everywhere with $1 or less fee.
the cops can’t clear a solve rate for murders in the US that’s any better than 50%.
That is averaged between the murders they don’t care about and the ones they put effort into. It isn’t thst every individual murder has a 50% chsnce of being solved.
Turns out AI is wrong 90% of the time though
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Oh shit, a crime the cops actually have to solve, haha, can’t just frame some poor sap this time gotta do some actual detective work. I hope they never catch him and the PD gets defunded. I know its NYC and they need cops but I think they could use a haircut at least
They can’t even blame a brown or black person, this is SSS rank detective work and they are a one-legged Kickboxer in this match.
Ya, this white guy must have them stumped.
I’m entirely unconvinced that anyone needs the thugs with badges. Multiple studies have shown that every single time that the NYPD pulls a “blue flu,” the crime rate drops, significantly. As far as I can tell, the thugs with badges cause a significant amount of the crime in this country.
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I agree, but if one day we abolished all cops, people in NYC especially would freak out. Hell some cops would probably do a bunch of crime to prove a point. Its not a demand that people like very much, . I think the police as a force that absolutely only exists to protect private property of the owning class, and I don’t know if you wanna hear my “nuanced” opinions and I don’t know if they’re worth very much. But I think that the police as a reactive force needs to be handled tactically in order to protect people who are protesting and force through demands. By and large I agree with Farrell Dobbs analysis in teamster rebellion was, during a political rebellion such as the 1934 Minneapolis teamster strike, the state of a police department changes daily and must be evaluated daily based on primarily their numbers. It would be great for left wing mass movements to make demands on the ruling class if that number was zero, but that’s unrealistic and most people know it.
We all watched them sit around for an hour knowing small children were dying inside a school. We know exactly what they’re made of
It’s already been two and a half days. The longer they go without catching him the less likely it will be that they do.
The fact that they are issuing a wider manhunt seems to back that up.
Given the publicity, I’m sure that they’ll catch a guy, but I’m skeptical that they’ll catch that guy.
Hate to burst the bubble but this guy threatened the illusion that the billionaire class is untouchable. The ultra-rich are going to be leaning heavily on all the politicians and officials they helped put into position to ensure this guy gets caught no matter the cost, and ensure he’s made an example of.
It might not be the NYPD or any other civil police department, but you can bet NSA & FBI leadership is getting multiple phone calls demanding they get involved and go over every piece of information related to the shooting they can get till they identify the killer. The ultra-rich won’t let this one slide as one of their own was publicly murdered, so they won’t stop at anything to ensure the killer’s character is publicly murdered so that anyone who tries to copycat or get ideas can equally be ostracized as an outcast.
Even if they don’t the guy, they’ll still find a guy. The illusion of control must be maintained.
Do you think they’ll let him get in front of a jury or will they kill him before they bring him in?
They’ll kill him and make it look like he went crazy and turned a gun on them or something and it was their only option.
Or he’ll get Epstein’d.
Or he’ll mysteriously fall from a high balcony.
"I want him dead or guilty!’
The dude that got shot wasn’t a billionaire, not even close. With a net worth of $54 million he’s just as much of a peasant to them as we are.
He wasn’t a billionaire, but he was filthy sticking rich, and made his money by causing untold stress and harm on other people.
I mean his company was already notoriously evil when he was just a high-ranking executive. But he took the helm, and wanted more money by being crueler than that.
Fine, he was a bad dude, but a millionaire getting shot doesn’t “shatter the illusion that billionaires are untouchable” any more than you or me getting shot would
I think you might be wrong there. How much conversation was happening a week ago about actually killing rich folks? I saw it occasionally here on lemmy in the form of ‘eat the rich.’ Out in my meatspace conversations though? Never. There might have been a grumble once a year, or they might agree with a statement about the elite political and financial class not caring about harm done to anyone else. In the last few days, even my normiest of normal friends has been talking about it, even if not directly. Most of the comments aren’t putting the rich in a positive light either.
This event has sparked a great deal of thought about death and taxes.
Even if they catch him and hang him, it doesn’t mean that he didn’t accomplish his goal.
If you’re trying to show your untouchable, revenge won’t prove that.
Taking out another CEO would, tho.
Jury nullification.
He’s not getting a jury. They’re going to cut him down and say he shot himself so his legacy will be that he was a coward . At least that will be the attempt but it seems like everyone will know better
This exactly my thought. They will do everything to make him crazy or suicidal.The good thing is that someone leak what he wrote on the casing. This makes it clear he is socially motivated. Hopefully, if they ever close in, he will have an online stream up.
He should walk naked into a major TV studio carrying nothing, ask them to call the cops. Force them to accept a surrender.
Hangs self in cell when camera is broken.
“He was in the middle of sexually assaulting the news crew.”
I still don’t think the smiling picture is him. Unless he ditched the backpack and jacket, got different ones and then ditched the backpack again.
Americans really need to google these words if they haven’t already.
Most Americans didn’t see any crime…
You are assuming that this saint protector of the working people could be presumably guilty of a crime
Oh no, I’m not talking about this case. Just in general, it’d be good of Americans to inform themselves on that.
In a private browsing window because if they know you know about it you will never serve on a jury.
Good luck going though the search history of every single person up for jury selection.
Also, a “private window” won’t lean jack shit, just means your local personal files won’t save what you do. Cookies and Google and whatnot still do.
If you want to be anon, use TOR with VPN or at least a VPN.
I don’t think its helpful to combine a Tor and VPNs in most situations. Tor itself should be fine
It pretty much is the VPN as far as I’ve understood it.
That’s not what people mean when they say do not use a VPN with tor
If anyone reading wants to actually learn please check these links
https://blog.nowhere.moe/opsec/index.html
https://anonymousplanet.org/guide.html
I recommend Whonix workstation or tails
OK, my bad, I’m not too well versed in the subject
thanks
Second link seems to be down.
Vpn with tor can hide the fact that you’re using tor from your isp
Yep, it’s gotten me out of jury duty twice
If people with intelligence and empathy skip out on jury duty, that leaves idiots and sociopaths to judge the accused.
Well unfortunately I have a job and a mortgage. If the trial goes longer than the few days that my employer is forced to pay me, and I’m stuck with the $50 a day the state pays, I’m fucked. I don’t consider living on the street a civic duty.
That’s fair and I’ve had to bail on jury duty for the same reason, although I was able to participate once.
You have to say it six times in a row in front of a mirror with the lights off.
Police realize 1 video is made of 200 pictures
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By all means do. I can’t wait to hear this man’s story.
And good luck getting a conviction. Jury Nullification go brrrrr
Wouldn’t that be something? If the people collectively decided, “Nah this is fine. This was reasonable.”
I doubt it but that would be beautiful.
Could even stop before it gets that far. It’ll be difficult to convene a jury with so many candidates dismissed for saying “nah, fuck health insurance CEOs”.
That moment when the Healthcare CEOs realize that no jury will convict their murderers in a country with more guns than people.
I wouldn’t rely on nullification. I instead think this guy deserves a full pardon. We pardon domestic abuse victims who kill their abusers, is this situation really so different?
There’s no one part of the system we should rely on. What I say I do so with hope in the full knowledge that we’re likely to see the corruption re-assert itself.
Imagine the gofundme campaign for this guys defense
I bet he’d be like “Nah, use it to pay for people’s health care.”
I bet he’d be like "Nah, use it to pay for
people’s health caremore assassins.”Imagine a crowdfunded CEO bounty program
I doubt they’ll take him alive.
Yup, this is my concern. They’ll claim he resisted during their no-knock raid, and they had no choice but to execute him in his bed. And all of the body footage will be “accidentally” scrubbed, or every single officer “forgot” to turn their body cams on.
“The assassin didn’t resist” is going to be the new “Epstein didn’t kill himself.”
I think they can just move it as a judgement as a matter of law, or whatever else rule applies. It was a pretty clear case afterall
200 pics are big boy words.
That’s at least 10 seconds of video footage at 20 FPS.
i bet this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us and; given the democrat’s obstinacy when it came to constructive criticism during the election; americans will treat it as another nothing-burger like they did with the genocide and it’ll become yet another nail in the coffin of the american empire’s decline; besides the election, ukraine’s defeat, afghanistan withdrawal, iraqi wmd’s, etc.
the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us
What do you think it has been used for up to this point?
it’s been done surreptitiously or academic masturbation until now
The government knows when you masturbate The government knows when you feel alone And it’s getting late and you’re sitting at home
i get that this is snark; but in case you really didn’t know: snowden proved that they had this capability circa 2008 and they’ve only gotten better at it after 15+ years.
Oh - it’s not snark… it’s a song: https://youtu.be/4zH9Zca1vRM
the corn dog ammunition belt made the american flags feel redundant. lol
yeah the democrats did it. ffs.
this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us
This feels hyperbolic.
The state protects the status quo, including whoever has money. I wouldn’t limit it to surveillance. If we’re just talking about the US, there’s the Battle of Blair Mountain, all of COINTELPRO, Watergate (I think?), etc.
the difference is that it’s in the news and has widespread appeal.
those examples were either done surreptitiously or were only academic exercises in privacy; this is real-world application of that academic theory that has the chance of not being suppressed or ignored due to its notoriety.
ukraine’s defeat
Tankie moment.
So is this what people keep talking about when they say they see a lot of tankies in lemmy?
Cause me reading that, OP was implying the likely defeat given current trend, I did not take it as a support of Putin.
yes, it’s tankie to spell out reality in the united states.
sometime i wish this were reddit so i could do remind me next year
No it’s a tankie thing to say Ukraine lost when the war is ongoing. You just want Putin’s dictatorship to have more land.
Down with Russian imperialism.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
No it’s a tankie thing to say Ukraine lost when the war is ongoing. You just want Putin’s dictatorship to have more land.
Down with Russian imperialism.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
i want the ukrainians to exist as sovereign peoples instead of a new vassal state to the dying american empire since the people that i descend from have been trying for almost 500 years to shake off the enslavement of this same empire.
There are no proposals of Ukraine joining the United States.
Russia is the country to blame causing the problems in the region as the Kremlin is responsible for Holodomor and for the rampant corruption in Eastern Europe.
the ukrainian inexplicably want to join the american hegemony called nato on the eve of its collapse; they’re better off on their own w/o serving as a a future proxy battlefield with the collapsing united states empire.
